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TANDARD FORM NO. 64
Office Memor
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UNITED ST
GOVERNMENT
TO
:
DIRECTOR, FBI
DATE: October 9, 1947
FROM : SAC, PORTLAND
SUBJECT:
FLYING DISCS
SECURITY MATTER - X.
Reference is made to Portland teletype dated September 13, 1947.
Records of the Radio Dispatcher, Portland Police Department, reflect
that first notice of unidentified objects in flight over the city on September 11,
1947 was received from officers in District 18, which is in the extreme north-
east section of the city, at 5:21 P.M. The log further reflects that at 5:23 P.M.
the radio requested District 14, which is further south, to attempt to locate
and identify the objects and that at 5:24 P.M. a report was received from the
car occupied by Chief of Police JENKINS, reporting that they had sighted some
objects. District 14 at 5:27 P.M. reported seeing nothing unusual in the sky.
ROBERT D. ADAIR, 4325 S.E. Madison Ave., Portland, advised that he was
one of the two officers on duty in District 18 on September 11. The car was in
the vicinity of N.E. 25th Avenue and Saratoga Court when ADAIR and his fellow
officer noticed a number of people looking upward and pointing. Upon looking at
the sky ADAIR observed the very bright reflection of the sun on some object
which was apparently made of silvery metal. The object was coming from the east
and made a wide turn over the city and disappeared to the south. ADAIR estimated
its speed at about 150 miles per hour and its altitude at about 5,000 feet.
He watched it for a period of about two minutes and during that time it gradually
disappeared in such a manner as to appear that the angle was slowly changing,
so that the sun was no longer reflected into ADAIR's eyes. He says that the
shape appeared to be round but that the glare was so bright that it could have
hidden the true outline of the object. There was no oscillation visible - only
steady flight. ADAIR believes it was an ordinary reflecting light
of the afternoon sun.
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J. R. CALDWELL, 7652 S.E. Lincoln St., Portland, Oregon was ADAIR's
partner in District 18 on September 11. CALDWELL states that the object appear-
red to him to take the same course as that described by ADAIR. He pointed out
that the speed, height, and size of the object were difficult to judge, because
of the interdependence of the three factors. However, he believes that the
object when first sighted was about three miles away and about two miles high.
He believes it was traveling at a much greater speed than a conventional air-
plane and was a great deal larger. It appeared to him to be elliptical in
shape, and inasmuch as it did not bank or tip he could not judge its thickness.
It was of a very bright silver or aluminum substance.
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Chief of Police LEON v. JENKINS advised that he was travelling south
on N. Williams Avenue near Russell St., when he and Officer H. S. RANEY, his
driver, received a call on the police radio requesting District 14 to attempt
to observe an unknown object in the sky reported by officers in District 18.
JENKINS observed what appeared to be a round silver object, about 10,000 feet
high, travelling northeast to southwest. It was directly to JENKIN's left when
observed first. He thought it was a weather balloon. Further observation con-
vinced him that it could not be a balloon because of its speed which was extreme-
ly great. As JENKINS watched, it turned gradually until it was travelling due
south, and as it did so, its shape seemed to change until it appeared to be
egg-shaped. It disappeared in about 30 seconds.
Patrolman H. S. RANEY stated that when he first observed the object
it was straight ahead of him and travelling straight away from his car.
RANEY was driving south on N. Williams Avenue. To RANEY it appeared to be just
a glare of sun on some object, and he was unable therefore to tell its shape.
It appeared to be very high and travelling extremely fast. It was out of sight
after he had travelled 4 or 5 city blocks at a speed of about 25 mph. RANEY
stated that he has never seen an object at such an extreme height before and
that if the sun had not reflected from it he could not have seen it at all.
He believes it could possibly have been a reflection from a large airplane at
great altitude.
ROBERT W. SHAYLOR, 4810 N. Fessenden St., Portland stated that he was
on duty in District 14 with Officer DONALD W. COWLING on September 11, 1947
and received the call to watch for the object flying over the city. SHAYLOR
and COWLING immediately scanned the sky from a vantage point in open territory
where they could see the entire sky. They saw nothing in the sky at that time,
SHAYLOR stating that they did not even see any airplanes.
A short article in "The Oregonian", Portland daily newspaper, for
September 12, 1947, describes the object as seen by Chief of Police JENKINS and
also states that "The Oregonian" received several calls from other persons
reporting the object. FRED M. WHITE, Assistant City Editor, advised that the
paper has no record of the identities of the people making the calls.
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NO. 64
Office Memor
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UNITED STA
OVERNMENT
TO
:
Director, FBI
DATE: 10/18/47
FROM : SAC, Anchorage
SUBJECT: REPORT OF FLYING DISCS
This is to advise that we have been able to locate a
flyer, JACK PECK, who is employed by the Al Jones Flying Company in
Bethel, Alaska. It had been reported to Military Intelligence that
Mr. PECK and his co-pilot VINCE DALY had observed some flying object
near Bethel, Alaska, in July, 1947. Efforts previously to contact
Mr. PECK were negative until the above instance.
He related that the occasion of seeing the flying object
near Bethel was on a July day when the sky was completely clear of clouds,
and it being during the early part, it is daylight the entire night.
The time of his sighting this flying object was about 10 PM and the sun
had just dropped beyond the horizon. Flying weather was extremely good
and he, with Mr. DALY, was coming into the Bethel Airport with a. DC-3.
He observed the flying object immediately to his left and stated that
it apparently was observed at approximately the same time by Mr. DALY
and both of them manipulated the controls of the plane making efforts
to miss the object inasmuch as they could not tell in which direction
it was going. They made a forty-five degree turn in order to get out of
the way of the object and then noted that it appeared to be going away
from them. He described the object as appearing to be some flying wing and S
said that it appeared to be about the size of a C-54 without any fuselage.
He could not see any propellor or any exhaust from jet propulsion or any
vapor trails and could not estimate the size due to his failure to be able
to estimate the distance he was away from the object. He was flying at
1,000 feet and stated that he tried to catch up with the object and in-
creased his manifold pressure to approximately 42 inches and was traveling
at the rate of 170 miles per hour.
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He called on his radio to the Civil Aeronautics Adminis-
tration station at Bethel, asking what aircraft was in the vicinity and
they had no reports of any aircraft. The object he sighted was
some five or ten miles from the airport before his arrival and stated
that the path did not go directly across the airport. He, of course, could
not tell whether the object was making any noise and stated that it was
flying at a thousand foot altitude and estimated travel at 300 miles per
hour. It was traveling in the direction from Bethel to Nome, which is in
a northwesterly direction. He noted no radio interference and is unable to
describe the color other than that it appeared dark but of definite shape
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and did not blend into the sky but had a definite, concise outline. Both
he and Mr. DALY clearly observed the object at this time.
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It may be stated to the Bureau that Mr. PECK is a well
known flyer as well as Mr. DALY and both are known to be very reliable
and responsible people, and it appears definite that they observed
something.
The above is being submitted for the information of the
Bureau.
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STANDARD FORM NO. 64
Imoffice Memorandum
UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO
:
Director, FBI
DATE: November 1, 1947
FROM :
sac, Albany
SUBJECT:
FLYING DISCS
A. COURTNEY PARKER, INFORMANT
Reurlet dated 9/25/47.
An Agent of this office contacted Mr. A. COURTNEY PARKER at his resi-
dence in South Royalton, Vermont and he stated that all the information he has con-
cerning the flying discs he saw, is set forth in the letter that he sent to the
Bureau dated September 17, 1947.
Mr. PARKER advised that as far as he knows, no one else in South
Royalton saw these flying discs, and that he believes he saw them inasmuch as he has
unusually good eyesight and that he can see bees, etc. further than anyone else. He
stated that possibly these flying discs were out of the range of normal vision. Mr.
PARKER was asked to furnish any additional information that comes to his attention
concerning these flying discs directly to the Air Forces since they now handle matters
of this type.
GREAT
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No further action is being taken by this office.
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Mrs. A. MoCaul
70-33 68th Place
GRAndm XMc Caul
Glendale
Brooklyn, New York
Dear Mrs. McCaul:
Your letter postmarked October 28,
1947, has been received and I want to express
my appreciation to you for having written as
you did.
Sincerely yours,
John Edgar Hoover
Director
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Mr. Nease
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
Miss Gandy
this mils a Durand
Elizabeth new york
Dear Sir.
with all these forest fires in main and ont
west in our Country Q was wondering whether
the flying disco had anything to do with int.
Has that just a myth or did they exist. of
so could not they have been incinding
falling to earth then with drught and heat
from the sun ignite Here not the discs
seen flying over main Vt. and western states
are the western states that have form five the
Flying Discs
same ones referted to have seen the flying dises
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conldn't slap thinking RECORDED of it. all americans must
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settling up here with plunty of money. Like The
back words 2 gauss. Kup to themselves too
Im a widow with tur young children and feel very
amprons to do my share in bringing up honest and
loyal americans
9011-9
MR. JONES
your truly,
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Nov 7 249 PM '47
mrs. milo a Durand
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new york
P.S.
I read that scientist the
way the fines flared up in different parts away from
The main five that is what made me think of
the imminderary discs. Thank you again.
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Mrs. Milo A. Durand
Elizabethtown, New York
Dear Mrs. Durand:
Your letter postmarked November 5, 1947,
has been received and I do want to thank you for
writing as you did. The patriotic motives which
prompted your suggestions concerning the subject
about which you have written are indeed appreciated.
Sincerely yours,
John Edgar Hoover
Director
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Mr. E. A. Tamm
COMMUNICATIONS SECTION
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Mr. Glavin
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Mr. Ladd
MAILED 11
Mr. Nichols
Mr. Rosen
Mr. Tracy
Mr. Egan
NOV 10 1947 P.M.
Mr. Gurnea
Mr. Harbo
Mr. Mohr
VA
Mr. Pennington
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
Mr. Quinn Tamn
Tele. Room
Mr. Nease
U. S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
Miss Gandy
55 NOV 22 1947
607169 avenue
Ridgewood 27 Thems
November 2, 1947
new york
Dear Sir
In regards to the "flying surcer"
mystery which recently received national
publicity, I, as a a citigen would like to ask a
few questions If you, as head of the FBI,
would be so kind as to answer I would be
greatly appreacitive.
First, has the FBI been and is the
FBI still investigating the "flying soucers"?
Second were copies of the July 9th,947
issue of the arizona Pepubler published ins
Phoenix anizona confiscated RECORDED 62-83894-136 by the FBI P
Third, is the investigating the your
Shaver mystery "in which an E author named
claims there are people
living enderground An ho have been there
for centuries ?
fourth, has a newsred, which appeared
in a Los angeles theatre showing Russian
scientists examining a crashed flying
samer, been suppressed by the FBI?
Fifth Does the FBI consider knowledge
of the "flying soucers "too dongerous for the
general public to know?
Though the above questions may seem
a trifle silly, I would appreciate on
answer to them, if at all possible
Thanking you for your country in reading
this and hoping the for an answer, I am
2020
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Sincerely yours
THE
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Joseph W. Omiline
November 8, 1947
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Mr. Joseph W Omiline
6071 69th Avenue
Ridgewood
Brooklyn 27, New York
Dear Mr. Omiline:
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83894-136
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RECORDED
has been received. The information contained
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confidential and available for official use
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only, and I am unable to be of any assistance
to you. I on sure you will draw no inference
from my inability to comply with your request.
Sincerely yours,
John Edgar Hoover
Director
NOTE: This individual asked questions concerning
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flying saucers and the Bureau's investigation of
Russians.
Postal Guide reflects Ridgewood is a
branch of the Brooklyn Station.
COMMUNICATIONS SECTION
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Mr.E.A. Tamm
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Mr. Glavin
Mr. Ladd
Mr. Nichols
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Mr. Tracy
Mr. Egan
Mr. Gurnea
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U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
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Port Allegany, Pa.
November 18, 1947.
Federal Bureau of Investigation,
Pittsburgh, Pa.
Gentlemen:
Following the appearance in this town on November 6, 1947,
of a Mr. Joe Lippincott, Director of the Eastern Area, Red Cross,
NG SAUCERS
Pittsburgh, Pa., as "speaker of the evening", at the annual local
Red Cross dinner, I was told by Dr. H. E. Cromwell, local practicing
dentist, that in a personal conversation, following the dinner, Mr.
Lippincott told him that the "saucers" reported as seen in various
parts of the country, were actually from Spain. He said that Mr.
Lippincott said that this had been ascertained by the Government in
Washington, but that it was not being made known. He said that
Mr. Lippincott had been in Europe and inferred that he had been in
Spain and knew conditions over there. Dr. Cromwell is a man active
in the Methodist Chruch and the local Protestant Mens Club, and it is
easy to see how far this report can be spread. The fact that the
Federal Government indorses the Red Cross makes a statement of an official
representative of that organization almost indisputable.
As a representative the of the Federal Government and as a
citizen interested in truth and World peace and racial and religious
harmony in our own country, I question the advisability of an accredited
representative of the Red Cross giving out this information, even "off
the record". I thought you might be able to check with Mr. Lippin-
cott or his organization.
RECEIVED
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On January nd l received a letter.
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it bears no return address. 7 ollowing is
an exact copy of it. l will keep the original
if it is needed at a future date.
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stories "magazine; published by ziff- Davis
Pub. Co. (one office in washington, D.C.); my
letter was.printed under the heading of 7 lying
saucer witness " lpage 167). Here is a copy ofit;
Sirs:
l have if ust finished reading the
October issue of "amazing stories", in which you
ask for flying saucer "information.
Here is what I know: 0 m June 28,
1947, at 3:43 P.M. my brother saw the flying
saucers- about seven I ten of them -which
flew directly over our house. He said make they
went like blue blazes" didn't any
noise and were heading approximately outh
(Rockfield, where my brother's farm is, is
what is really strange is that same afternoon
just 16 miles northwest of milwaukee.). But
the discs were seen over Illinois (they must
have been the same ones). This information
was given on June 29th- Sunday-over WGN-
"The Latest neus" at 8 to 8:15A.m. with charles
Sebastin. He reported that the disce had been
sighted Perhaps over cellinois the inf the orm preceding ation is valueless afternoon.
to you. any rate please keep this confidential. to
our neighbors think we're slightly "queer"
have seen the discs. (d didn't see them but
l believe my brother.)
l have been following 2 the Shaver
stories and
more of them
hope you have many (3
marion Beuscher
menomonee falls, wisc.
(Ed. note) The flying saucers are real, and
you can be sure of that! Let your neighbo.
think what they will, in a few months
you will be able to prove how good your
brother's eyesight is! Thanks for your.
send them in. Rough draurings would
report, and we hope many more readers
also be helpful ed.
The editor had asked for letters from
readers who saw the flying discs, mentioned
so much in the news, Several times the
editor Ray A. Palmer) has mentioned in
"amazing stories "that he h as been threatened.
In the same issue (Jan. 1948) on page 162,
is a letter from w.c. Hefferlin, following:
yes, we Remember!
suis:
Enclosed is a news paper clipping, just
one of many items showing up of like nature.
humb nall sketches.
Remember the article "Circle-Winged Plane"
as printed by you in "amazingstories "maga-
zine, September, 1946, page 157. you have desired
facts and confirmation. now, re-read that
article, again, please.
The planes seen at goliet, illl, Kansas
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City, klahon Seattle, etc., ere not the (4
same group of planes but other groups of the
same type, all ona world wide "mapping expedition
They are only a few of the many belong
ing to a world government consisting of all the
oppressed peoples and dominated nations of the
earth, of all colors, races, and creeds.
This government is directed and advised
by an organization headed by "The ancient
Three, who were, who are, who will be. "They,
who at one time over a year ago, sent a
message to you by way of us, Their
headquarters is Rainbow City", antarctica,
Permission is given to print this letter,
if descred.
W.C. sefferlin
Ray- Dox mfg. Co.
Libingston, mont.
(ed. note) we print your letter because it is
interesting. wedon't know if it is true, naturally,
we do know, however, that the "flying
saucers" are no mirage. as for Rainbow
City, ifits what you say it is, we'd sure like
to pay it a visit. That sort of thing, which is
the utopia all science fiction writers have
dreamed about, is just not visible anywhere in
the civilize d world. if it exists at the south pale,
near that warm spat Byed found, and it
hascwhat you intimate, we'll be waiting for
the saucers to come back and bring peace to this
nasty -minded old planet. Only we wonder how it
could be done-pace doesn't come by force per-(5
haps. the way it will ever be none is to wipe
the slate clean, andjust start off as vertible cavemen
shocked to sanity by utter destruction. In that
case, maybe the "last "war is our "last' "hope." a
peculiar viewpoint, but it has amazinglogic. we
never met the man who could learn how a kick
in the pants feels without getting a kick in the
ants. as for the R aucers-maybe you're shoot-
ing in the dark because your editor knows
what he's talking about there! But even if you are,
we'll forgive you, because your motives are so
letter. cet wasn't really necessary. 0 we readers have
obviously of the good kind. Thank you for your
not forgotten your article-and how they wrote us about it!-Ed.
Please notice where sefferlin says "govern-
ment of all appressed peoples 38 They want
want to deny them to others, especially the freedom
all rights and privileges that there are yet
me to "keep quiet". and why did they to
of free speech, as witness from "Rainbow City" number telling
their letter to me — are they intending
write. more?
threat, and coming through the U.S. mail, that am it
as my letter is a warning letter with cl a
be investi gated. Please keep this confidential not entire
sending it to you personally so can
since under the circumstances, cl do feel
by safe.
Thankingyou,
Very truly yours
(miss) marionBeuscher
604 west main St,
men omonee Falls, isc,
ms
January 14, 1948
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Miss Marion Beuscher
604 West Main Street
Menomonee Falls, Wisconsin
Dear Miss Beuscher:
Your letter of January 5, 1948, has been
received and I want to thank you for forwarding
information to me relating to the subject you
mentioned. The facts you related, however, do not
reflect any violation of a Federal statute within
the investigative jurisdiction of the FBI. The
thoughts prompting your communication are indeed
appreciated.
Sincerely yours,
John Edgar Hoover
Director
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NOTE: Correspondent reports correspondence she has
had with the Ziff-Davis Publishing Company in connection
with the "flying saucers" which were observed by her
brother. She is of the opinion that this publication
may be trying to conceal information related to our
Nation's security and she mentions a threat that does
not referinjury to person or property.
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Near Sirs:
I have done a lot of
thinking abovil those flying
discs ever since your operators
called at our home. I have fig-
used out a possible solution
that I are passing on to you.
If you can see the picture as
I see it.
If self propelled homes
were made to miles a
reason h believe they could
few years ago there ago, F issistary
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pl anning to chop a lot of such
bombs on our cities, they would
wait the exact range, and the
ruly way they could gil it would
he to make some tests. I
up and off a (3) n ye, its couise
looked like an illips tous
The discs were seening Texas
probably hopped in the gulf.
as then sight improved they
no dontil dropped some in
various places. the one that
was seen lown Jenu. way, was
no doubt aimed at some lake close
to foil Thox. Maybe something
wait mony with that one, is
the reason it was so plainly
visuble. I wing to the fail that
your operators called at our
remote home at 8:00 P.m on a
ed us to keep mum. ) know
Sunday evening and also cantion
that the 7.B.9 is doing what they
can-togit a live on these discs.
this may help a little. a few
nights ago there was a very bright
my around the moon, when I
tookshol it this the same
glasses I could harely see the
my, So thisproves that what
If they were -w (2) op a bomb hue
and lil it explode, it would
cause a lot of ifeitement, and
if they hopped one that didn't
explode and some one found it
there there would be excitement
so -w avoid this, they pick some
point in Lake Eric, lil their
place and time to for
agents over here, know look it what
it. If the projectile plunged in
the lake, the range findus
just where it hopped, so the projectile
wouldn't have any way to tell
must have some soil of trace
so at a cuitain distance from
the eaith some soil of trace
is released, probably something
like a pin-wheel fire cracker.
21 must remain un the sky
a while, to give the range findu
a fix or what ever you call it.
but in order to remain in
the sky it must he in motion,
So this have is made -Co fly
in a circle. Because it was
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definate. we saw was something
) think this is serious husi-
ness so if this letter helps
you in any way, I will be
well paid.
N. J.K MARSHALL
Respectfully yours,
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Coving ton, whio
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Re: FLYING DISCS
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Dear Sir:
enclosure dated February 4, 1948 received from Lieutenant Colonel DONALD
I am transmitting herewith for the information of the Bureau copies of an
A-2, is United States Air Force, Hamilton Air Force Base, California. This enclosure SPRINGER,
Fourth, Tenth, Eleventh, and Fourteenth Air Forces, Air Defense First, from Second, Head-
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Mitchell Inasmuch as these recent instructions of the
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offices, as requested to advise this office, by Bureau agents,
referred Bureau in to the Air Force future and reports no investigative connected with action flying taken discs 1, 1947, should in be which the
the handling of whether gust there has been a change as well in Bureau as other interested with Bureau
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SUBJECT: Investigation and Reporting of "Flying Disc" Incidents
TO:
Commanding Generals, First, Second, Fourth, Tenth, Eleventh, and Fourteenth
Air Forces, Air Defense Command
ATTN: AC of S, A-2
1. The numbered air forces of this command are responsible for the prompt
investigation and reporting of incidents relating to "flying discs" which occur
within their respective areas. Numbered air force A-2s, after evaluating disc
incidents, will determine the extent of investigation. Futile expenditure of military
funds and manpower must be avoided.
2. "Flying discs" will be investigated as provided for in Counter Intelli-
gence Incident Cases, taking cognizance of the USAF Operating Intelligence Echelon
structure. Where it is evident that witnesses, who were together at the time of
incident but who are widely separated at the time of investigation would corroborate
each other's story, only one witness need be interrogated. If there is a reasonable
indication that a reported incident is a hoex or the fabrication of a publicity
seeking individual, no further investigative effort will be expended. However, a
report of such circumstances will be submitted to the FBI office concerned.
a. CIC personnel attached to the numbered air forces of this command
may be utilized to prosecute the investigation of subject incidents.
b. Investigations will be coordinated with the FBI Office concerned
in accordance with instructions contained in letter, this headquarters, D 333.3 EX,
subject, "Cooperation of FBI with AAF on Investigation of ,Flying Disc' Incidents,"
3 September 1947.
3. Reports will be narrative in style and will cover only those facts
pertinent to the subject. Where source credibility cannot be established, or when
an incident lacks foundation, the report will merely state same. Two types of report
will be submitted on all incidents.
a. Spot Reports (fragmentary reports) will be submitted on all incidents
and will be followed by a Letter Report.
b. Letter Reports will be submitted to report the completed investigation
of all "flying disc" incidents.
4. Reports will be submitted in duplicate promptly, usually be regular
mail. However, Spot reports on incidents of substantial character, i. e., those in
which the patent credibility of the witness is beyond challenge and whose technical
ENCLOSURE
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backgrou is compatible with his observations of an occurrence obviously not atmo-
spheric of celestial phenomena, may be transmitted by TWX. Reports will be submitted
directly to Headquarters, USAF, ATTN: Directorate of Intelligence, Air Intelligence
Requirements Branch. One informational copy of each report submitted will be for-
warded to this command, ATTN: AC of S, Intelligence. Reports will be classified at
least CONFIDENTIAL.
BY COMMAND OF LIEUTENANT GENERAL STRATEMEYER:
RICHARD W. GEUSS
Captain, USAF
Actg Asst Adj Gen
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February 20, 1948
Director, 62-83894-140 FBI
RECORDED FLYING DISCS
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SECURITY MATTER - X
Reference is made to your letter in the captioned matter dated
February 12, 1948.
You are advised that Bureau Bulletin No. 57 dated October 1,
1947, still applies with respect to flying discs. The Bureau is conducting
no investigations concerning flying discs. We will, however, give the Air
Forces any information which comes to our attention and will receive any
information which the Air Forces volunteer.
The Headquarters of the Air Forces in Washington are being contacted
by the Bureau in order to insure that there is no misunderstanding as to the
Bureau's position in this matter.
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DATE: 3/1/48
Mr. Tolson
Mr. E. A. Tamm
Mr. Clegg
FROM :
V. P. Keay
Mr. Coffey
Mr. Glavin
Mr. Ladd
Mr. Nichols
SUBJECT:
FLYING DISCS
Mr. Rosen
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SECURITY MATTER - X
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in the above-captioned matter dated February 19, 1948. The memorandum
indicated that the San Francisco Field Division had received a letter from
the headquarters of the Air Defense Command, Mitchel Air Force Base, New York,
dated February 4, 1948, entitled, "Investigation and Reporting of 'Flying Disc'
Incidents." This communication indicated that investigations should be
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The Agent in Charge of the San Francisco Field Division inquired as
to a change in policy regarding the investigation of flying discs. A letter
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was forwarded to San Francisco advising them that there had been no change in
the Bureau's policy. This matter has been discussed by Special Agent S. W.
Reynolds of the Liaison Section with Lieutenant Colonel C. P. Martin of the
Intelligence Division of the Air Force. Colonel Martin advised Mr. Reynolds
that apparently the Air Defense Command at Mitchel Field was not aware of the
fact that the Bureau was no longer conducting investigations regarding flying
discs. He stated that he would take the necessary action and straighten out
the Air Defense Command as to the present policy regarding incidents of
flying discs.
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Mr. Glavin
Mr. Ladd
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The attached letter from the San Francisco Field Division
Mr. Quinn Tamm
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dated February 12, 1948, raises the question as to whether there has
Mr. Nease
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been a change in policy concerning the investigation of flying discs.
RECOMMENDATION:,
It is recommended that the information contained in the attached
letter be discussed by the Liaison Section with the Air Forces.
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KENNETH MC KELLA
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CARL HAYDEN, ARIZ.
CLYDE M. REED, KANS.
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JOSEPH H. BALL, MINN.
MILLARD E. TYDINGS, MD.
HOMER FERGUSON, MICH,,
RICHARD B. RUSSELL, ga.
KENNETH S. WHERRY, NEBR.
PAT MCCARRAN, NEV.
GUY CORDON, DREG.
JOHN H. OVERTON, LA.
United States Senate
LEVERETT saltonstall, MASS.
JOSEPH c. O'MAHONEY, WYO.
MILTON R. YOUNG, N. DAK.
THEODORE FRANCIS GREEN, R.1.
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
WILLIAM F. KNOWLAND, CALIF.
HENRY c. DWORSHAK, IDAHO
EVERARD H. SMITH, CLERK
CECIL H. TOLBERT, ASST. CLERK
March 22, 1948
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Honorable J. Edgar Hoover, Director
Federal Bureau of Investigation
Department of Justice
Washington 25, D. C.
Dear Mr. Hoover:
Attached you will find letter which may or
may not be of interest to your office. However, I
felt it should be passed on to you for whatever the
information is worth.
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Kindly return my constituent's letter
although if you wish you make a copy of it.
yeging Flying Discs
Cordially yours,
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March 14, 1948
Mr. Kenneth Wherry
United States Senate
Washington, D. C.
Dear Mr. Wherry:
On March 13 at 2:30, M.S.T. o'clock in
the afternoon I witnessed a strange sight in the
sky traveling at a very high rate of speed at a
very high altitude.
I was first attracted to this sight by
a noise of motor or whatever it was. It sound
to me like that of a train rumbling in the distance
of from 10 to 12 miles on a still day.
At first glance it looked like it might
be a vapor trail left by a high flying plane. But
the white streak that was in the sky never changed
its shape or did it change in the direction of travel.
It traveled much faster than any plane I
have seen traveling in sky high enough to leave vapor
trail.
As near as I cand escribe this sight was
that it might appear to be a stream lined train
traveling at a very high altitude at very high rate
of speed.
This rocket or whatever it might have been
was high enough to disappear from sight while it
was yet very far above the horizon.
I am not writing this so that it might
seem to be another disc, fan or whatever you might
call them. I just saw this and it has been on my
mind and I thought if there was anything that I
could be of help to solve this thing I would write
this to you and you can forward this to the proper
Dept. if it is necessary. Thanking you kindly
Yours Truly
LANDLE BY
/s/ Kenneth L. X Frasier
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looked like it might have traveled over Denver,
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Colo. or a little to the south.
I live almost due east about 180 mi. by
air and I looked to the south a little to be able to
get sight of object.
This object was also witnessed by my son
who was with me at the time.
I saw the smoke cloud left by so called
meteor which exploded over at Norton_Kans. This
object was not a bright ball of fire like it was.
The silver streak in the sky traveled as
if it were a long connected streak. This did not
resemble a line of smoke left by a train traveling
along it moved altogether as a unit. If it is not
against any regulation and if possible would like to
have answer to this object.
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Honorable Kenneth S. Wherry
United States Senate
Washington, D. C.
My dear Senator:
Your letter of March 22, 1948,
with enclosure, has been received. Since
the subject matter mentioned in your con-
stituent's letter is not within the scope
of authority of this Bureau, I have taken
the liberty of forwarding a copy of his
letter and yours to the Secretary of the
Army, National Defense Building, Washing-
ton, D. C., for his information. Your
thoughtfulness in bringing this to my
attention is indeed appreciated. I am
enclosing a copy of my letter to Mr.
Fraster which I thought you might like
to have for your files, together with his
letter.
With expressions of my highest
esteem and best regards,
Sincerely yours,
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Dear Mr. Fraster:
Your letter dated March 14, 1948,
to the Honorable Kenneth S. Wherry, United
States Senator, has been referred to me for
attention. Since the matter you mentioned
is not within the scope of authority of this
Bureau, I have taken the liberty of furnish-
ing a copy of your communication to the
Secretary of the Army, National Defense
Building, Washington, D. C., and in the
event you have any additional information,
it is suggested you may desire to communicate
with him.
Sincerely yours,
J. Edgar Hoover
John Edgar Hoover
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RE: MRS. MADELINE GWYNNE MERCHANT;
INFORMATION CONCERNING
Dear Sir:
FLYING Discs
Transmitted herewith for the Bureau's information are
copies of a letter, together with enclosure, from the above
captioned individual. Inasmuch as there is no record in this
office concerning captioned person, no reply has been made to
instant letter, with the thought the Bureau may desire to acknow-
ledge instant communication or communicate further concerning
the matter with the Dallas Office.
For the information of the Bureau and the Dallas and
San Antonio Offices, the clippings referred to are transmitted
herewith to the Bureau, Dallas and San Antonio Offices, it being
noted that Wichita Falls is covered by Dallas and Fort Sam Hous-
ton is covered by the San Antonio Office.
Very truly yours,
EDWIN J. FOLTZ <
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BY
Federal Bureau of Investigation
Department of Justice
Washington, D. C.
ATTN: FBI Laboratory
PC-23142
SUBJECT: Project "SIGN"
Gentlemen:
Accompanying this letter is a small sample of soil. This
soil was taken from a depression reputed to have been caused
by a "flying saucer" described as being approximately two feet
in diameter and one foot thick which supposedly settled gently
to the ground, rebounded to a height of about twenty feet and
then continued on its journey. Although the declivity was immedi-
ately covered by a large washtub a heavy rain subsequently filled
the depression about one/third full of water before any sample of
dirt could be taken.
In an effort to approach this incident objectively to deter-
mine every possible clue, it has been deemed advisable to have
this soil sample analyzed and tested. Upon inquiry, your Dayton
representative stated that the FBI Laboratory would accomplish
the required
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cular, if there are traces of unusual elements or alloys adhering
to the surface of the particles, or if say abnormality in structure
exists showing that the soil was subjected to intense heat, gases
or radio-active substances, etc. Unfortunately, in this regard,
no one thought to forward a sample of the Mill surrounding the de-
into 9/14
pression so no comparison of soils can be made at this time. Should
the subsequent test show anything unusual some arrangement could be
made to procure some of the surrounding soil so that a comparative
analysis could be made. The accompanying sample has not been test-
ed by any other agency, nor will it be.
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Project "SIGN"
9 Sept 1948
Director, Federal Bureau of Investigation
In the event the tests show nothing warranting further investiga-
tion you may dispose of the sample. The report should be addressed
to this Command marked for the attention of MCIAXO-3. This Division
will appreciate your cooperation in this matter.
Very truly yours,
Incl
James W.R. Colonel Chief, Hausman CLINGERMAN Technical USAF Intelligence Fol
USAF
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FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
WASHINGTON D.C.
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October 7, 1948
Commanding General
Air Materiel Command
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Dayton, Ohio
Attention: MCIAXO-3
There follows the report of the FBI Laboratory on the examination
of evidence received from your office on September 17) 1948 Hoover
Re:
John Edgar Hoover, Director
YOUR FILE NO.
FBI FILE NO.
LAB. NO.
Examination of Soil
Reference:
Examination requested:
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Specimens:
Addresses
Letter dated September 9, 1948
Microscopic (Petrographic-Geologie)
Q1 Sample of soil.
Results of Examination:
The sample of soil designated as specimen 01 consisted of various sised
pebbles, sand and dirt. This material was examined for the presence of unusual
elements or alloys adhering to the surface of the particles, evidence of intense
heat and radioactive substances.
Nothing unisual was noted on the the sand and dirt that
would indicate a metallic object had rubbed Code scraped against this sample. No
Mr. Tolson
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abnormality was noted in the structure of the various pebbles and rocks, nor
Mr. Clegg
Mr. Glavin
was there any indication of extreme heat or the presence of radioactive sub-
Mr. Ladd
Mr. Nichols
stances.
Mr. Rosen
Mr. Tracy
Mr. Egan
DINISTON
Mr. Gurnea
Mr. Harbo
The specimen designated as 01 to your office under
Mr. Mohr
Mr. Pennington
separate cover by registered mail. OCT 7 1948 P.M.
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Examination of Soil.
Lab. # PC-23142 CO
Commanding General, Air Materiel Command, Wright-Patterson
Examination requested by: XXX AF Base, Dayton, Ohio Attention: MCIAXO-3
Date of reference communication: letter 9/9
Date received: 9/17
Evid. 9/14 Reg.1171535
Examination requested: Micro (Petrographic-Geologic)
Result of Examination:
Examination by: JEVONS
9/30/48
Specimens submitted for examination
Q1, Sample of soil.
Consisted of Various syed pebbles,
sand & dirt. most of the larger
picer were examined individually
for presence of metal adhering
to them. nothing unusual noted
on the pebbles or in the sand &
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*** AF Base, Dayton, Chio Attention: MCIAXO-3
Date of reference communication: letter 9/9
Date received: 9/17
Evid. 9/14 Reg.1171535
Examination requested:
Micro (Petrographic-Geologio)
Result of Examination:
Examination by: JEVOBS
Returned 10/18/48 Regmail.
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Mrs. R. B. Holiday
609 Conkling
Valley City, North Dakota
EX-49
Dear Mrs. Holiday:
Your letter dated October 15, 1948, has been
received and I do want to thank you for the patriotic
motives which prompted you to make available your
thoughts concerning the subject you mentioned.
Sincerely yours,
John Edgar Hoover
Director
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Examination of Soil
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FLYING DISK, LONNIE EDWARD NOACK COMPLAINT. RE HOUSTON TELETYPE
Gandy
DEC. TWENTY EIGHT. MR. R.C. PERSONS, VASCO BLONX ELECTRIC MANUFACTURING
COMPANY, LA, PRESENTLY IN ARIZONA, EXACT WHEREABOUTS UNKNOWN TO HIS
OFFICE, EXPECTED TO CALL MORNING OF DEC. TWENTY NINE. MR. NATHAN
SMITH, SMITH MANUFACTURING COMPANY, SOUTH PASADENA, CALIF. ADVISED HE
AND PERSONS PURCHASED AIRPORT IN MOJAVE DESERT NEAR HELENDALE,
0 Flying Disks,
CALIF. STATED THAT IN EARLY PART OF DEC. EXACT DATE UNKNONW, PERSONS
ADVISED HIM HE HAD FOUND A FLYING DISK ON THEIR AIRPORT. MR. AND MRS.
SMITH, PERSONS, AND LONNIE NOACK PROCEEDED TO AIRPORT WHERE THEY
LOCATED DISK, TOOK PICTURES OF IT AND REMOVED
PORTIONS
OF DISK, NOACK RETAINING SOME PARTS AND SMITH KEEPING
SOME PORTIONS WHICH ARE STILL IN HIS POSSESSION. SMITH ADVISED
THAT DAY AFTER LOCATINGTHE DISK AN EMPLOYEE OBSERVED PARTS RETAINED
BY SMITH, AND STATED HE BELIEVED THE OBJECT HAD BEEN MANUFACTURED
BY OLSEN AND RICE MANUFACTURING COMPANY, TOY MANUFACTURERS LA. SMITH
STATED HE THEN CONTACTED OLSEN AND RICE WHO STATED THEY WERE FIN-
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OLSEN AND RICE TOLD SMITH THEY HAD TAKEN EXPERIMENTAL KITES TO SMITHS
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AIRPORT AND UPON DETERMING KITES NOT PRACTICAL HAD ABANDONED THE PROJECT.
SMITH STATED HE HAD TAKEN SIXTEEN MM PICTURES WHICH ARE PRESENTLY BEING
DEVELOPED. STATED WOULD MAKE PICTURES AND PARTS FROM OBJECT AVAILABLE
TO THIS OFFICE. SMITH DESCRIBED OBJECT AS APPROXIMATELY SIX FEET IN DIA-
METER, CONSISTING OF DISK MOUNTED ON AXEL WITH BEARINGS, WINGS
ON EITHER SIDE, TAIL SURFACE SUPPORTED ON BOOMS, CUP MOUNTED
ON EACH WING TIP RESEMBLING ROCKET POWER CONTAINERS. SMITH STATED DID
NOT OBSERVE ANY CHEMICAL OR OTHER MATTERIAL IN CONTAINERS WHICH COULD BE
USED AS SELF PROPELLING FORCE. MR. HENRY T. RICE OF OLSEN AND RICE MAN-
UFACTURING COMPANY ADVISED CLAUDE LEROY WOLFERT FINANCED BY THEIR COMPANY
IN DEVELOPING TOY KITE, THAT WOLFERT HAD PROACHED IDEA OF MAKING LARGE
MODEL TO BE USED AS TOW TARGET FOR AIRPLANES BUT RICE DECIDED
THAT HE MAKE ONLY KITE SUITABLE FOR SALE AS TOYS.
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FIFTY POUNDS, WHICH TOGETHER WITH OTHER MODEL HAD BEEN FLOWN IN DC THREE
OWNED BY OLSEN AND RICE TO PRIVATE AIRPORT OF
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FLIGHT OF KITE, AND THAT IN VIEW OF SIZE OF LARGE MODEL IT WAS NECESSARY
TO TOW IT BEHIND PLANE TO OBSERVE FLIGHT. STATED MODEL CRASHED AND OLSEN
AND RICE ABANDONED EXPERIMENT LEAVING AIRPORT WITH WOLFERT REMAINING BE-
HIND TO CONDUCT FURTHER EXPERIMENTS. RICE STATED DID NOT KNOW THAT WOL-
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SUBJECT: FLYING DISCS
Mr. Rosen
Mr. Tracy
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Mr. Harbo
Mr. Mohr
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Mr. Quinn Tamm
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At 10:00 a.m. today, SAC Willis, Houston, called in and stated
Mr. Nease
Miss Holmes
that Fuller Blackwell, a business man in Houston, Texas, had furnished
Miss Gandy
certain pictures taken by a friend of his, Lonnie Noack of the Humboldt
Oil Company, Houston, Texas, and had related that Noack had been flying
with a friend in a private plane from California to Houston and that at a
point about 30 miles east of Lone Pine, California, some object lying on the
ground made a very strong reflection and they made a check to determine what
would cause this bright reflection. They finally landed the plane and found
an object which could be described as being 8' in diameter with wings about
4' long. The object is about l' in thickness and in the center there appears
to be some type of gyroscope. The wings apparently are fitted with some type
of jet propulsion. An examination was made by Noack and his friend and they
could find no identifying marks and took photographs of the object they
observed.
SAC Willis stated he had informed Lieutenant Robert Fleming of the
AAF, Ellington Field, and Captain Bush, the Army representative in Houston,
of this object and that Noack would be interviewed that morning in the Houston
Office with Lieutenant Fleming being present. Lieutenant Fleming wanted the
statements of Noack taken down by a stenographer and he will furnish the
stenographer for that purpose.
I instructed SAC Willis to furnish complete details of this matter
by air mail special delivery, including a copy of the photograph. I further
instructed that he furnish the same details to the proper field office because
unquestionably SB the Bureau would want to run this thing out.
After talking with you, I phoned SAC Willis back and told him to
insure the presence of a Bureau Agent at the time this object was examined by
the Army Air Forces and that he should make proper arrangements with the office
in California to see that an Agent was present. I also told him to advise me
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Mr. Lodd
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Mr. Mohr
Mr. Pennington
ATTENTION INSPECTOR HOWARD FLETCHER
Mr. Quinn Tamm
FLYING DISCS DISK. LONNIE EDWARD NOACK, COMPLAINANT. COMPLAINANT
Mr. Nease
Miss Gandy
RESIDING TWO NINE TWO ONE CHICAGO STREET, HOUSTON, CONTACTED THIS
OFFICE DECEMBER TWENTY SEVENTH ON CAPTIONED MATTER AND IN SIGNED
STATEMENT TODAY SUBMITTED THE FOLLOWING. NOACK, EMPLOYEDRAS A
MACHINIST BY HUMBLE OIL COMPANY, HOUSTON, LEFT HOUSTON BY COMMERCIAL
AIRLINE DECEMBER FIFTH LAST ON BUSINESS FOR HOLLYWOOD, CALIF. ON
MONDAY, DECEMBER SIXTH, CONTACTED R.C. PERSON, FOUR ONE ONE SIX AVALON
BLVD., LA., AN ACQUAINTANCE, WHO REMARKED OF HAVING SEEN ON THAT DATE,
SOME DISTANCE FROM HOLLYWOOD IN A DESERT AREA, WHAT APPEARED TO BE A
FLYING DISK. PERSON OPERATES VASCO ELECTRICAL MANUFACTURING CO., LA.,
ADAMS FIVE TWO EIGHT ONE. ON DECEMBER SEVENTH, NOACK, PERSON, AND
MR. AND MRS. NATHAN SMITH, ONE NAUGHT FIVE SOUTH PASADENA AVE., SOUTH
PASADENA, CALIF., DEPARTED BY PRIVATELY OWNED AUTOMOBILE IN SEARCH OF
RC
DISK. SAME LOCATED APPROXIMATELY ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILES NORTHEAST
OF PASADENA AND ABOUT TWENTY MILES NORTHEAST OF LONE PINE, CALIF.
SPEEDGRAPHIC CAMERAS. THE NOACK FILM WAS EIGHT RECORDED MILLEMETERS IN SIZES
PERSON, SMITH, AND NOACK TOOK PHOTOGRAPHS OF DISK
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AND CAMERA MADE BY REVERE. DISK LOCATED DESERT AREA NEAR NINE HUNDRED
ACRES OF LAND OWNED BY PERSON AS PRIVATE AIRFIELD. NOACK HAD HIS FILM
DEVELOPED BY EASTMAN KODAK COMPANY AT UNKNOWN ADDRESS LOS PALMAS ST., LA.
5 3JAN 7 1949
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THESE FILMS RECEIVED NOACK, HOUSTON, BY MAIL DECEMBER TWENTY THIRD
LAST.
FILM SHOWS DISK TO BE APPROXIMATELY SEVEN FEET IN DIAMETER
AND APPROXIMATELY TWO FEET THICK IN MIDDLE WITH FEATHER EDGE ON RIM.
ABUTTING SAUCER IN MIDDLE AND ON BOTH SIDES ARE FOUR FOOT WINGS
RESEMBLING CONVENTIONAL AIRPLANE TYPE. NO MARKINGS, NO RADIO, AND
APPEARED TO HAVE LANDED AT GREAT SPEED. DISK IN COMPARATIVELY GOOD
CONDITION. THE ENDS OF BOTH WINGS HAD ATTACHED A SMALL ALUMINUM
CYLINDER APPARENTLY FOR JET PROPULSION. ONE OF THESE CYLINDERS OBTAINED
BY NOACK AS SOUVENIR AND CURRENTLY IN POSSESION OF THIS OFFICE
FILM
SIMILARLY MAINTAINED. SA ROBERT FLEMING, OSI REPRESENTATIVE, ELLINGTON
FIELD, TEXAS, NOTIFIED DECEMBER TWENTY SEVENTH. NOACK FILM EXHIBITED
THIS OFFICE INSTANT DATE AND SHOWS DISK IN ALL POSITIONS AND ARE
AUTHENTIC. MR. FLEMING, OSI, ON DECEMBER TWENTY EIGHTH NOTIFIED
DISTRICT COMMANDER, FIFTH OSI DISTRICT, WRIGHT FIELD, DAYTON, OHIO.
SAC R. B. HOOD, LA., NOTIFIED TELEPHONICALLY OF ABOVE INFORMATION
WITH REQUEST THAT HE MAINTAIN CONTACT WITH R. C. PERSON IN ORDER THAT
BUREAU AGENTS MAY ASSIST OR ACCOMPANY OSI REPRESENTATIVES IN ACTUALLY
OBSERVING AND RETRIEVING FLYING DISK. THIS ACTION TAKEN PER BUREAU
INSTRUCTIONS. NO FACILITIES AVAILABLE HOUSTON FOR REPRODUCING MOVIE
FILM OF NOACK, HOWEVER, STILL DEC.50 SHOTS CAN BE DEVELOPED BY COMPETENT
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COMMERCIAL REPRESENTATIVES. ACTION TO BE TAKEN BY OSI, DAYTON, OHIO,
NOT KNOWN AT THIS MOMENT AND IT IS POSSIBLE THEY MAY DESIRE FILM
FOR REPRODUCTION THEIR FACILITIES THERE. IF BUREAU DESIRES LA OFFICE
TO OBTAIN FROM PERSON AND SMITH THEIR FILM AND NEGATIVES, THIS MIGHT
BE CONSIDERED. PICTURES TAKEN BY PERSON WITH FOUR BY FIVE SPEEDGRAPHIC
CAMERA AND THZSE PICTURES SHOULD BE READILY AVAILABLE. NOACK FILM
AND PART OF JET PROPULSION WING TIP BEING MAINTAINED HOUSTON AWAITING
SUGGESTED DISPOSITION AND HANDLING BY EITHER BUREAU OR OSI. CINCINNATI
OFFICE BEING MADE COGNIZANT TO COVER POSSIBILITY THAT BUREAU MAY
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Mr. Rosen
Mr. Tracy
Mr. Egan
Mr. Gurnea
Mr. Harbo
Mr. Mohr
Reference is made to the teletype of December 28, 1948,
Mr. Pennington
Mr. Quinn Tamm
Tele. Room
from the Houston Office.
Mr. Nease
Miss Holmes
At 3:30 p.m., I called SAC Hood of the Los Angeles Office
and instructed that he attempt to locate Mr. Person and Mr. and Mrs.
Litem Miss Gandy
Nathan Smith, secure photographs and film in their possession and also
secure from them the location of the described flying disc. I also
instructed that Mr. Hood send out sufficient Agents to find the disc
missing
and guard it until it could be properly handled by the appropriate Government
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authority. I also telephoned the Houston Office and told them to send
in the photographs or film in their possession, together with the part which
had been recovered from the machine by the Informant Noack.
At 5:00 p.m., SAC Hood called back and stated that all work on
this matter should be immediately discontinued. They had managed to
reach Mr. Nathan Smith and he stated that he knew all about this matter;
that it was not a flying disc, but an object which had been identified
as a tow kite, which has a disc center and wings. This kite is actually
made in Los Angeles by the Olson and Rice Manufacturing Company. A call
was made to Olson and Rice, who admitted making a kite along the lines
described by Mr. Smith and they explained that they had tried to fly it
and it had failed and they had abandoned it.
Mr. Hood stated he did not have full details at the time of his
call, but he did have this report from the Agents. Therefore, I instructed
that he call Mr. Willis of the Houston Office immediately in order that the
film and the part available to the Houston Office will not be forwarded
for Laboratory examination.
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saucers" which were seen at Oak Ridge, Tennessee, sometime during July of 1947.
All of the information contained in this letter was received from Mr. GEORGE
RATHMAN, Chief Investigator, Security Division, Atomic Energy Commission, and
Colonel C. D. GASSER, Resident Engineer, Air Material Command, United States
Army, who is the principal army technician at the Nuclear Energy for the Pro-
pulsion of Aircraft Research Center at Oak Ridge, Tennessee.
Mr. RATHMAN advised that the attached photographs were taken by W. R.
PRESLEY in July of 1947. He stated that interview with PRESLEY revealed that he
had been snapping photographs of his family in front of his residence at 218
Illinois Avenue, Oak Ridge, Tennessee, late in the afternoon, when he looked
into the sky and observed the vapor trail as exhibited by the photograph numbered
"1." PRESLEY stated that he took a snap of this trail, was winding the film to
the next number, when he looked into the sky and observed the ball of fire as
shown in photograph 2. Upon observing the unusual phenomena, he used his last
should
film in taking photograph #2. PRESLEY made these photographs available to re-
porters of the Knoxville News-Sentinel and a story concerning them was run in
that paper; however, as shown by the photostatic copy of the newspaper clipping,
which is also being submitted herewith to the Bureau, the print was very indis-
tinct; the news story did not contain any factual information; and it was regarded
generally by the public at the time as a possible trick.
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had made several copies of this photograph and had distributed them among his
acquaintances at Oak Ridge, Tennessee. Upon Colonel GASSER's finding that the
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the Compliance and Investigations Division, to recover as many as possible of
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and that, according to the statements of PRESLEY, no more copies were made or
distributed. RATHMAN further stated that GASSER had appeared extremely concerned
over the matter and seemed to be quite emphatic that the matter should be given
no more publicity than was absolutely necessary. RATHMAN also advised that he
studied the negatives from which the reproductions were made, and they appeared
to be authentic in that trick photography should have been apparent, but from the
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observation that had the negative been "doped" with some sort of chemical, it
would have removed the emulsion from the face of the film in such a way that
the negative would have been thin at the point which is supposedly a ball of
fire, whereas, in fact, both the vapor trail and the corona of fire are dark
on the 'negative, indicating that it was an actual exposure. It was the opinion
of Mr. RATHMAN that the photographs were, without doubt, authentic.
In accordance with Bureau instructions, no active investigation of
this matter was made, but it was deemed advisable to interview Colonel GASSER
prior to submitting the photographs to the Bureau.
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Colonel GASSER predicated his remarks concerning the "flying saucers"
or "mystery missiles" by stating that he knew nothing of an official nature
concerning them, other than the fact that they were believed by air force
intelligence officials to be man-made missiles, rather than some natural
phenomena. It was his further belief that a great deal of information had been
compiled concerning these missiles by air force intelligence, and that research
on the matter was being extensively done at Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio. He also
expressed the opinion that information at the disposal of the United States Army
Air Force Intelligence had, in all probability, been made available to the
Bureau at Washington, D. C.
Colonel GASSER then continued with his own ideas as to what might be
the nature of these discs, which ideas he had formulated through review of
Waltime Energy minile
those known facts and theoretical conjectures of himself and other scientists
concerning the nature of flying discs and methods of propulsion for such type
of aerial mechanism. According to him, flying discs have long been a theoretical
possibility and, in fact, a possibility which would indicate one of the best
means by which to break through the barriers of the supersonic area. Scientists
have, for many years, been attempting to develop this type of aircraft. Some
experimentation has been done even in the United States, but insofar as is
known in the United States at the present time, there have never been any
practical developments. As a second factor of consideration, Colonel GASSER
stated that insofar as is known to U. S. scientists at this time, there is no
known chemical fuel which would make possible tremendous range of flight such
as is ascribed to the reported "flying saucers." There is only one possible
fuel which could be utilized which is in accord with present theory, and that
is the utilization of atomic energy. As further evidence of this possible means
of propulsion, Colonel GASSER called attention to the vapor trail and gaseous
corona described as a ball of fire, which he states might give some evidence
to the fact that a radio-active field is present. He explained that the corona,
or exhaust, has what appears to be layers of intensity which are circular rather
than elongated and have no tendency to trail at the extremities, as would be
the case if a normal type of exhaust from a combustion engine was being utilized
in the propulsion of these aircraft. He continued that the vapor trail left by
the missile appears to be one single line of uniform intensity which is extremely
slow in dissipating. It was pointed out by him that in the case of a normal
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vapor trail being left by an aircraft moving at extremely high speeds or extremely
high altitudes, the vapor trail usually will be from the wing tips and/or the
exhaust of the engines, thus presenting several lines. But, in any event, even
though only one line were visible, it would be rather quick to dissipate. This
indicAted to him that the vapor trail represents some atmospheric change along
the path of the missile, which would not be the case were it any presently known
type of aircraft.
this subject
He continued that information furnished by him should be treated with
the utmost confidence, in that he was not speaking officially, but as a personal
matter of cooperation. He stated that the matter was being given absolutely no
dissemination by the air force or other military personnel, and that they had
not deemed it advisable to advise him of all information pertaining to the missile.
He continued, however, that in his conversation with representatives at Wright
Field and in reading reports returned to this country by foreign agents, he had
gathered together certain information which might be of assistance in determining
whether or not these so-called missiles were authentic, usable and of danger to
the United States. First, he pointed out that knowledge of such a possible
aircraft is not by any means new, it having been known as early as four years
ago that some type of flying disc was being experimented with by the Russians.
In addition thereto, he stated that more recent reports have been received
from representatives of the Central Intelligence Agency in Southern Europe and
Southern Asia to the effect that the Russians were experimenting with some type
of radical aircraft or guided missile which could be dispatched for great dis-
tances out over the sea, made to turn in flight and return to the base from which
it was launched. This fact was extremely worthy of notice as experiments in
this country have so far only developed to the point where we are concerned with
delivering a missile to the required point of impact, and no consideration has
been given to imparting to that missile the ability to return. Secondly, he
stated that it is a known fact that the Russians are attempting to develop
some type of nuclear energy, that they received a wealth of information concern-
ing nuclear energy at the time of their occupation in Germany, and that they too
have at their disposal the limited supply of the necessary fissionable materials.
He stated that insofar as any opinion as to whether or not they have the ability
and scientific knowledge to create such a nuclear-propelled missile is strictly
a matter of conjecture, and that he would hesitate to make any definite statement.
He pointed out, however, that the Russians have some very capable scientists in
the field of atomic energy and that, in addition thereto, they took into their
custody some of the most advanced and capable scientists of the German Nation.
He also stated that 8. peculiar fact concerning the missiles exists
from reports he has received which is worthy of notice, and that is that from
all appearances, they usually approach the United States from a northerly direc-
tion and have been reported as returning in a northerly direction. None have
ever been known to crash, collide or disintegrate over American soil, but it
would appear that they come to the United States, cruise around, and go back
over the North Pole. He states that insofar as is known to him, there has never
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been any piece of one recovered from any source whatever in order that analytical
study of its nature could be made. Insofar as was known to him, the only actual
raterial which would be of any value in determining its nature are telephoto
photographs which are now in the possession of engineers at Wright Field, Dayton,
Ohio How detailed and how clear these photographs are, he was unable to state.
He stated that one report has been received concerning a collision of these
missiles with another type of aircraft. This report, according to him, took
place a short time prior to the report of numerous discs over the United States,
and the report emanated from Czechoslovakia. This report was that a Czecho-
slovakian transport had collided with some unidentified missile while in mid-air
over the ocean, and that said missile and said transport had been completely
disintegrated without recovery of parts or survivors from either. It was the
belief of Colonel GASSER that this undescribed missile was perhaps the same type
of thing as the flying saucer. Another factor of notice, according to Colonel
GASSER, and as is portrayed by the photographs, it would appear that the missiles
can be maintained at 8. certain altitude above the contour of the ground. This
could be done by means of some type of radio altimeter or radio control. Natu-
rally, the path of the missile is not in exact parallel to the contour, as its
purported great speed would create considerable lag in its flight. Another
factor which is worthy of note, according to Colonel GASSER, is that it is
normally reported as being seen at tremendously high altitudes and always travel-
ing in a straight line. He stated that he himself observed, on one occasion, a
single vapor trail coming from some type of aircraft at unbelievably high altitudes,
which vapor trail extended from horizon to horizon in a perfectly straight line.
He observed the vapor trail while it was in the process of formation and states
that it was completely unlike any vapor trail he had ever observed before in all
of his experience with the air force. It was his judgment that whatever created
the vapor trail was traveling at an unbelievably tremendous speed. This, together
with reports that when close to the ground, the missile travels at speeds which
make possible visual observation of its actions, would reflect that there is
some ability to control the speed of these missiles as well as the altitude.
Colonel GASSER concluded that this matter, while still purely a matter
of guesswork, is nevertheless a source of great concern to the military establish-
ment of this country. Great efforts have been expended by the service to determine
just what the nature of these missiles might be and, upon so determining, decide
whether or not an adequate defense can be established. He also stated that it
has given impetus to the research being done by the air force in their own pro-
gram of nuclear energy for the propulsion of aircraft to develop guided missiles.
He also advised that insofar as was known to him, there was absolutely no con-
nection between these missiles and the fact that they were observed close to
Oak Ridge, Tennessee. He stated that this was perhaps, and probably, a matter
of coincidence and they were seen in this area merely as they were seen in forty-
six of the forty-eight states of the United States during the Month of July when
so many reports were being received.
This information is being submitted to the Bureau for whatever value it
may be, and no further action in the matter is being contemplated by this office,
unless advised to the contrary.
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Office Memorandum
UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
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Director, FBI
DATE: 12/28/48
FROM SAC, Houston
SUBJECT: FLYING DISC:
LONNIE EDWARD NOACK, Complainant
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Attention: Assistant Director D.M. Ladd
Remytel 12/28/48 in the above captioned matter.
For the Buyeau's information, on 12/27/48 Mr. FULLER
BLACKWELL, an attorney with offices 410 Kress Building,
Houston, Texas, telephonically contacted the Houston
Office to advise that he had a friend, LONNIE NOACK,
who had some information on an object which might be
a flying disc. Mr. BLACKWELL stated he was calling in
response to Mr. NOACK's suggestion and as a means of
determining what authorities would have an interest
in this matter. He said Mr. NOACK was a machinist
employed by the Humble Oil and Refining Company, Houston.
Mr. BLACKWELL, in calling, advised that the disc, or
object, was approximately eight feet in diameter, had a
tail and wings, and apparently was equipped for jet
propulsion. He stated NOACK had observed this bject
at a desert location near Las Vegas, Nevada; further,
that Mr. NOACK had taken some movie film of the disc and
that this film was currently in his possession.
Immediately upon receipt of the above information,
Mr. Robert B. Fleming, Special Agent, O.S.I., Ellington
Field, Texas, was notified as was true of Captain Harold
Bush, MID representative, also Houston. As a result of
these referrals, arrangements were effected with Mr.
NOACK to bring his film to the Houston Office for a showing
P.M., 12/27/48. This was done with Messrs. Bush,
Fleming, Noack, and Special Agent Graham W. Kitchel and
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While observing the bject, Mr. NOACK noted an aluminum
cylinder which had become detached from one of the wing
tips and he brought this back with him as a souvenir. This
cylinder conceivably could act as a rudder, a rocket
housing, or fuel tank attachment. Mr. NOACK initialled
the cylinder and surrendered it also.
There are attached hereto for the Bureau two copies of a
signed statement taken from Mr. NOACK dated Houston, Texas,
12/28/48. Two copies of the statement are attached for
the Los Angeles Office, and one informational copy is being
designated for the Cincinnati Division. The original is
being retained in the Houston file. One copy of the statement
is attached to the copy of this letter for the FBI Laboratory.
During the interview with Mr. NOACK, Mrs. ROSE C. ROTSEL, a
stenographer for O.S.I., Ellington Field, recorded the
statement for O.S.I. use.
Initial information obtained concerning this flying disc
was furnished telephonically to Inspector Howard Fletcher
at the Bureau, 9 A.M., 12/28/48. Mr. Fletcher requested
the Bureau be given a summary of the information by teletype,
with interested offices being similarly notified, and that
the signed statement of NOACK be submitted AMSD. He further
instructed that he did not want the Bureau "side tracked" in
the handling of this matter, but that FBI representatives
should assume an active interest in the investigation
throughout, cooperating, of course, with O.S.I. representatives.
Mr. Fleming's headquarters are the District Commander, 5th
O.S.I. District, Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio. On the morning
of 12/28/48 Mr. Fleming sent a telegram to his District
Commander giving a general summary of the original complaint.
Mr. Fleming was unable to advise how the 5th O.S.I. District
would handle their inquiry in this matter. He stated this
could either be handled by Wright Field dispatching a special
plane to California or by having their District Commander, 18D,
O.S.I., San Bernardino, California handle it. He stated
in any event it would be necessary for O.S.I. representatives
to first confer with Mr. R.C. PERSON, named in this statement,
as being the individual who initially discovered the flying
disc and would know also its present whereabouts.
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Director
Re: Flying Disc
Ho 12/28/48
Mr. PERSON, as indicated, maintains a business at 4116
Avalon Boulevard, Los Angeles, California, telephone
Adams 5281.
To insure the Bureau's participation in this matter,
SAC R.B. Hood, of the Los Angeles Office, was contacted
telephonically at approximately 11:30 A.M. (CST)
12/28/48 with the suggestion he maintain contact with
Mr. PERSON.
Also in keeping with Bureau instructions, the roll of
film received from Mr. NOACK, together with the aluminum
portion of the fuselage, is being forwarded separately
the Bureau, attention FBI Laboratory.
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Dec. 28, 1948
I, LONNIE EDWARD NOACK, residing 2921 Chicago
Street, Houston 17, Texas, make the following statement to
Special Agent Robert B. Fleming and Christopher R. Bradley,
representatives of the Office of Special Investigation,
Ellington OSI Detachment, Ellington Field, Texas, and
Special Agents Graham W. Kitchel and Galen N. Willis who
I know to be Special Agents of the Federal Bureau of
Investigation.
On Monday afternoon December 6, 1948, at about
6 P.M., Mr. R.C. PERSON, Mr. NATHAN SMITH, Mr. C.A. TOCE,
Mr. ROBERT BROUSSARD and another man, name not recalled,
and I had dinner at the Old Virginia Inn, Los Angeles,
California. After dinner we went back to Mr. Smith's
electrical manufacturing company which he owns and operates
in Los Angeles, California. Mr. PERSON told us about seeing
a flying disc and we made an appointment to leave early
the next morning by car, with our cameras, to go to the
location of the disc. Mr. PERSON was detained at some
private air field so we did not leave until about 2 P.M.
on December 7, 1948. We arrived at the scene of the
flying disc and took pictures of the disc which was still
lying around. Mr. SMITH took about 10 feet of 16 mm film
and Mr. PERSON took five or six shots with a Speed Graphic
Camera. He noticed that the first three shots were taken
when the adapter on his lens was closed too much and I
don't know if they turned out all right. Mr. SMITH
suggested I hold the flying disc up and rotate it around
and he would take my picture with my camera. After
taking the pictures, we patched the fence of Mr. PERSON's
property where people had been cutting the wire to get to
a road. We left and then drove back and had dinner at
Eaton's Inn and they took me back home to Hollywood,
California.
I would like to recite that I left Houston, Texas
11:30 A.M. on Sunday, December 5, 1948, for California by
plane and flew to Hollywood, California on a commercial
plane on business matters. On arriving in Hollywood, I met
Mr. PERSON in Hollywood on Monday, December 6, 1948, and
at that time he told me about the flying disc he had located.
He stated he had gone to Las Vegas by his personal plane
and saw the disc from the air on his way back.
On December 7, 1948 we went out in Mr. NATHAN
SMITH's car and picked up his wife and left his home in
South Pasadena about 11 A.M. We drove out to an airport
where his plane was about forty miles from Pasadena were
he was having the plane repaired. He wanted to be sure
the plane was on a truck before we left for the destination
where the disc was. In making this trip, we proceeded
out by a race track and passed one of the Kaiser steel
works and the Virginia Dare Wine Orchard. I would say
we went directly north or northeast from Pasadena,
California. We drove through a town called Matonia
(phonetic) and followed a road through some mountains and
through a small desert. I would estimate the distance from
Pasadena to where the disc was found to be about 150 miles.
The terrain in which the disc was found could be described
as flat, desert, and desolate.
I would like to explain that Mr. PERSON has
private property (an airport which he purchased from the
government) right by the location of the disc. Mr. PERSON
thought the disc might have been launched from his airport,
but whether that was it or not - we don't know. Mr. PERSON
said he usually flew at an altitude of about 8,000 feet
and, of course, he flew lower in some spaced. He did not
mention his altitude at the time he first saw the disc.
The disc was located practically just outside his property
and we were going north, DO it would be east of his property.
He has about 900 acres.
When we arrived at Mr. PERSON's property, we saw
the disc, or flying wing, and it was on the ground in a
semi-vertical position, approximately a 45 degree angle,
with the left wing imbeded in the ground. In looking at
the ground, it appeared that the object had hit the earth with
considerable force and had slid 300 to 400 feet. It was
dented but was generally intact. I think the pictures I took
with a Revere 8 mm camera quite well show the form, shape
and size of the "wing." I am 5'7" tall and in standing next
to the object when it was in an upright position, it was
slightly higher than my height. I would say it was roughly
seven feet in diameter, before crashing.
On each side of the object there were wings
approximately four feet by twenty inches and three inches thick
with an axle that protruded through the disc and into the wings.
It was mounted on ball bearings which the disc rotated on.
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The disc imelf was approximately two feet thick
in the center, tapering to a feather edge at theerim. On
the outside of the disc, near the rim, there were funnel
shaped cups bradded on and these were spaced all around
on both sides, each cup being approximately twenty inches
apart. The openings of these cups were to the rear. The
disc itself was natural aluminum with no paint on it except
of the type of aluminum which was 24 S.T. and it bore this
stamp. The wings were painted a yellow-green camouflage
color.
The wing has a leading edge similar to that of
an airplane and tapers to the rear to a feather edge. The
wing was ribbed throughout with aluminum ribs for substantial
strength. Each wing had a similar rocket cartridge on each
tip fastened by two bolts. I had one of the wings in my
possession and have turned it over to the proper authorities.
The cartridge on the one I had was apparently knocked off
in the crash.
There were two strut bars attached approximately
twenty inches from the disc leading to the rear with an
elevator. Also, the two struts protruded toward the front
with something attached, a weight or some tow system, which
was during the crash anchored into the ground and bent
and we could not exactly determine how it was weighted or
controlled. I would say the elevator was approximately
twenty-two inches long and about 5/8 inch thick with a slight
taper to the rear and probably ten inches wide. The struts
extending from the trailing edge of the wing to the elevator
were made of 5/8 inch steel tubing. The disc, in being
lifted, I would judge to weigh from 80 to 100 pounds.
With respect to the pictures taken, I took
approximately 15 feet of colored 8 mm film.
The disc was built where they had the proper
equipment to do the necessary work because they had to have
a spot welder and building equipment to make the different
angles. I might add that I am an instrument maker for the
Humble 011 and Refining Company and have a generally good
knowledge of machine and metal work. There was nothing on
the object to indicate its origin, whether American or foreign
make. It would appear, however, from the aluminum,workmanship,
etc. that it probably was American made.
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After we finished taking our pictures and discussing
the object among ourselves, Mr. PERSON expressed an intention
of obtaining a truck and hauling the object to his shop. I
cannot say at this time whether he did this or not or where
the object may be at this particular date. We finished
our observation and picture taking at approximately 5:30
or 6 P.M. on December 7.
In response to Mr. Fleming's inquiry, there was np
radio equipment noted on the object in any fashion or form.
We returned to Pasadena, California, that evening
arriving in Hollywood about 9 or 9:30 P.M. I took some more
pictures that night along Hollywood Boulevard on the unfinished
roll of film and then wetn over the Chinese Theatre and took
a picture of the signature of George Raft and finished the roll.
I bought another roll of film, and took them to the Eastman Kodak
Company the following Monday which would be December 13, 1948.
As I recall, this Eastman shop was on Los Palmas Street in
Los Angeles, California. They informed me they would develop
the film and that it would be ready on Thursdayt. I left
California on Wednesday so they mailed the film to me at my
business address, Humble 011 Building, Room 159, Houston, Texas.
I received these films on December 23, 1948.
After my return from California I mentioned to several
of my business and social acquaintances that I had seen this
object, a disc or saucer or whatever you might call 1t, and
told them that I had taken pictures and would be glad to show
them when the pictures arrived. As stated, I received the
film on December 23 and at 1:30 P.M. on the same date I showed
the film in the projection room at Humble 011 to the following:
D.W. BLAIR; J. HATTAWAY; D.A. PETERSON; JAMES S. OLIVIER;
WILLIAM RIED, JR.; A.E. MELETON; WAYNE CRAWFORD; D.A. BATTLE
and two other men whose names I do not recall. All of these
men work in the instrument shop with me at Humble 011 & Refining
Company. I also showed the film to my brother-in-law, E. KULAK,
of Pasadena, Texas, at home on the following night.
On Christmas Day I met some friends and one of the
girls was with a young boy who was interested in photography.
I do not know his name but he works at Southern Pacific. I told
him I had some pictures of the flying disc but I did not show him
the pictures but explained the disc. I think this boy is the
person who had his friend at the newspaper contact me.
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I got home about 10:30 A.M. and FRANK REED,
of the City Desk at the "Houston post" called me and wanted
to know about the disc. I told him I could not give him
any information on it. He begged me for the story, but I
told him I would let him know and that I had friends I
had to contact before I could give him any information.
I then got in touch with Mr. Blackwood, my
lawyer, the following morning and asked him if he knew
anyone in the FBI. He stated all the FBI personnel he knew
were no longer stationed here. I then contacted the FBI
and turned the material over to them.
Although I can't describe where this object is
located, I believe I could go back to 1t and I am sure
Mr. PERSON and and Mr. SMITH could go back to it.
Mr. NATHAN SMITH's business address is Nathan
Smith Electrical Company, 105 South Pasadena Avenue, South
Pasadena, California. Mr. R. C, PERSON is president of
the Vasco Electrical Manufacturing Company, 4116 Avalon
Boulevard, Los Angeles, California.
For record purposes, in taking the pictures above
referred to, I did so using exposure of 16 frames per second
at a diaphragm opening of f6.3. I used Cine-Kodak Kodachrome
film.
ATTENTION The above statement, made voluntarily and for the
retention of proper authorities, is made to my best knowledge
and belief.
LONNIE EDWARD NOACK
Witnesses:
Representatives OSI, Ellington Field, Texas
FBI, Houston, Texas
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ENCLOSURE TO THE BUREAU
RE: FLYING DISC;
LONNIE EDWARD NOACK, Complainant
SAC, Houston
January 25, 1949
Director, FBI
FLYING DISCS
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LONNIE EDWARD NOACK, Complainant
Reference is made to Los Angeles teletype dated 12/29/48 and to
Houston teletype dated 12/28/48, and the subsequent transmittal of an
8mm movie film taken by Mr. LONNIE NOACK, along with several parts of
the supposed flying disc to the laboratory for examination.
Since prior to receipt of the above items by the laboratory the
information was obtained which identified the supposed flying disc as a
tow target and later a toy kite, no examination was conducted here.
Accordingly, these items are being returned to you via registered
mail.
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Colonel Gasser stated that he knew nothing of an official nature concerning
"Flying Discs" other than the fact that they are believed by Air Force Intelligence
officials to be man-made missiles, rather than some natural phenomena. It was his
further belief that a great deal of information has been compiled concerning these
missiles by air force intelligence, and that research on the matter was being
extensively done at Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio.
Colonel Gasser then continued with his own ideas as to what might be
the nature of these discs which ideas he had formulated through review of those
known facts and theoretical conjectures of himself and other scientists concerning
the nature of flying discs and methods of propulsion for such type of aerial
mechanism. According to him, flying discs have long been a theoretical possibility,
and, in fact, a possibility which would indicate one of the best means by which to
break through the barriers of the supersonic area. He stated that scientists have,
for many years, been attempting to develop this type of aircraft. Some experi-
mentation has been done even in the United States, but insofar as is known in the
United States at the present time, there have never been any practical developments.
As a second factor of consideration, Colonel Gasser stated that insofar as is known
to U. S. scientists at this time, there is no known chemical fuel which would make
possible tremendous range of flight such as is ascribed to the reported "flying
discs." According to Gasser, there is only one possible fuel which could be
utilized which is in accord with present theory, and that is the utilization of
atomic energy.
He stated that this subject matter was being given absolutely no dissemination
by the air force or other military personnel, and that they had not deemed it
advisable to advise him of all information pertaining to this type missile. He
continued, however, that in his conversation with representatives at Wright Field
and in reading reports returned to this country by foreign agents, he had gathered
together certain information which might be of assistance in determining whether or
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new and that it was known as early as four years ago that some type of flying
disc was being experimented with by the Russians. In addition he said that more
recent reports have been received from representatives of the Central Intelligence
Agency in Southern Europe and Southern Asia to the effect that the Russians were
experimenting with some type of radical aircraft or guided missile which could be
dispatched for great distances out over the sea, made to turn in flight and return
to the base from which it was launched. He related that this information was
extremely worthy of notice as experiments in this country have so far only developed
to the point where we are concerned with delivering amissile to the required point
of impact, and no consideration has been given to imparting to that missile the
supply?
ability to return. He also advised that it is a known fact that the Russians are
attempting to develop some type of nuclear energy, that they received a wealth of
information concerning nuclear energy at the time of their occupation in Germany,
and that they have at their disposal a limited supply of fissionable materials.
He pointed out that the Russians have some very capable scientists in the field
of atomic energy and that, in addition thereto, they took into their custody some
of the most advanced and capable scientists of the German Nation.
Colonel Gasser stated that a peculiar fact concerning these missiles
is found in reports he has received, that from all appearances the missiles
usually approach the United States from a northerly direction and have been reported
as returning in a northerly direction. He advised that none have ever been known
to crash, collide or disintegrate over American soil, but it would appear that they
come to the United States, cruise around, and go back over the North Pole. He
stated that insofar as is known to him there has never been any part of a missile
of this type recovered from any source whatever in order that an analytical study
of its nature could be made. He stated that one report has been received concerning
a collision of these missiles with another type of aircraft. This report, according
to him, emanated from Czechoslovakia and took place a short time prior to the report
of numerous discs over the United States. According to Colonel Gasser a Czechoslovakian
transport had reportedly collided with some unidentified missile while in mid-air
over the ocean, and that the missile and transport were completely disintegrated
without recovery of parts or survivors from either.
Colonel Gasser concluded that this matter, while still purely a matter
of guesswork, is nevertheless a source of great concern to the military establishment
of this country. He advised that great efforts have been expended by the military
service to determine the nature of these missiles and upon so determining, decide
whether or not an adequate defense can be established. He stated that it has given
impetus to the research being done by the air force in their own program of nuclear
energy for the propulsion of aircraft to develop guided missiles.
ACTION:
None. The above is for your information.
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To:
Chief of Staff USAF attn Dir of Special Investigations
Officer of the Inspector General
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31 January 1949
Reference previous reports, subject; unknown, aerial
phenomena, file number 24.8. Sighting of identical object
reported at 2255Z 30 Jan 49 by aprx 30 people. Estimate at
least 100 total sightings. AEC, AFSWP, 4th Army, local
commanders perturbed by implications of phenomena. Sighting
reported from El Paso, Alburquerque, Alamogordo, Roswell,
Socorro, and other locations. All appear to be same object at
different points in trajectory. Unless instructed to contrary
this office will make all out investigation with view to
location of impact point if any. Request reply.
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DATE: February 18, 1949
FROM
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Mr. Tracy
Mr. Egan
Mr. Gurnea
SUBJECT:
"FLYING SAUCERS" OBSERVED OVER OAK RIDGE AREA
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Reference is made to Knoxville letter to the Director dated January 10,
1949, entitled as above.
Mr. Nease
Miss Gandy
There is being forwarded for the Bureau's information a copy of
a letter from Colonel C. D. GASSER, USAF, AMC Engineering Field
Officer, Oak Ridge, Tennessee, to Mr. G. J. RATHMAN, Security
Division, U. S. Atomic Energy Commission, Oak Ridge. This letter
is self explanatory and reveals that the photographs forwarded
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with referenced letter are the result of accident or purposeful
hoax and are not actually photographs of a "flying saucer".
Colonel GASSER personally advised that while the photographs
about
are not real, his statements made concerning the existence of
flying saucers and the opinions expressed by him nevertheless
stand as previously stated.
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Dear Mr. Rathman
This is in response to your letter dated 16 December 1948,
subject "Photographs", with inclosures, addressed to Major
D. J. Grant at this site, concerning photographs taken during
the month of July 1947 by Mr. William Presley of 218 Illinois
Avenue, Oak Ridge, Tennessee, of an unidentified object that
appeared to be flying over Oak Ridge.
Since receipt by Major Grant of the above material, this office
has taken steps to secure an evaluation of same by the Air Force
office of the Chief, Technical Intelligence Division, Intelli-
gence Department, Air Materiel Command, at Wright-Patterson Air
Force Base, Dayton, Ohio. As a result, the following informa-
tion has been revealed:
"When the negative, containing the sphere, is examined
by strong incident light, it is noted that the emulsion
is raised at that point above the normal level of the
remaining emulsion. This indicates that either a drop
of warm water or a drop of developer struck the film at
this point and rolled down this negative and the succeed-
ing negative.
"To further substantiate this, it will be noted that when
the two (2) negatives are placed side by side with the
edges of the film aligned, the so-called "trail" is con-
tinuous, that is the two sections match, indicating the
drop rolled on from one negative to the next.
"Sill further proof is shown on the fogged edge of the
negative containing only the trail. This is proven by
the fact that the trail extends beyond the normal format
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of the negative. In other words, there is a trail of
that section of the negative which was not exposed in
the camera. This effect shows up in one negative and
not in the other because the negative in question is
fogged; therefore, this irregularity was developed.
"Still further proof of these defects lies in the number
of unevenly developed sections of the negative."
In view of the above, it is recommended that this entire matter
be declassified and that Mr. Presley be advised of the nature of
the images, if and when the negatives are returned to him by your
office.
For your information, this office is taking the liberty of furnish-
ing a copy of this communication to Mr. C. C. McSwain, Special
Agent, FBI, because of official interest evidenced by his office
in the matter.
Your cooperation in furnishing photographs and negatives, together
with information contained in your letter of 16 December 1948 to
Major Grant, is sincerely appreciated.
Very truly yours,
C.D. GASSER
Colonel, USAF
AMC Engineering Field Officer
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FLYING DISCS
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SAC, HOUSTON
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STANDARD FORM NO. 64
Office Memorandum
UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
DIRECTOR, FBI
January 31, 1949
TO
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DATE:
FROM
SAC, SAN ANTONIO
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PROTECTION OF VITAL INSTALLATIONS
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SUBJECT:
BUREAU FILE # 65-58300
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At recent Weekly Intelligence Conferences of G-2, ONI, OSI, and F.B.I.,
in the Fourth Army Area, Officers of G-2, Fourth Army have discussed the
matter of "Unidentified Aircraft" or "Unidentified Aerial Phonomena" otherwise
known as "Flying Discs", "Flying Saucers", and "Balls of Fire". This matter
is considered top secret by Intelligence Officers of both the Axwy and the
Air Forces.
It is well known that there have been during the past two years reports from
the various parts of the country of the sighting of unidentified aerial
objects which have been called in newspaper parlance "flying discs" and
"flying saucers". The first such sightings were reported from Sweden, and
it was thought that the objects, the nature of which was unknown, might have
originated in Russia.
In July 1948 an unidentified aircraft was "seen" by an Eastern Airlines
Pilot and Co-Pilot and one or more passengers of the Eastern Mirlines Plane
over Montgomery, Alabama. This aircraft was reported to be of an uncon-
ventional type without wings and resembled generally a "rocket ship" of the
type depicted in comic strips. It was reported to have had windows; to
have been larger than the Eastern Mirlines planc, and to have been traveling
at an cstimated speed of 2700 miles an hour. It appeared out of a thunder-
head ahead of the Eastern Airlines plane and immediately disappeared in another
cloud narrowly missing 2. collision with the Eastern Mirlines plane. No
sound or air disturbance was noted in connection with this appearance.
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During the past two months various sightings of uncxplained phenomena have
been reported in the vicinity of the A.E.C. Installation at Los Alamos,
New Mexico, where these phenomena now appear to be concentrated. During
December 1948 on the 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 11th, 13, 14th, 20th and 28th
sightings of unexplained phenomena were made near Los Alamos by Special
Agents of the Office of Special Investigation; Mirline Pilots; Military
Pilots, Los Alamos Security Inspectors, and private citizens. On
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January 6, 1949, another similar object was sighted in the same area.
Dr. LINCOLN LA P.Z, a Netcorologist of some note, has been generally in
charge of the bservations near Los Alamos, attempting to learn character-
istics of the unexplained phenomena.
Up to this time little concrete information has been obtained.
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DIRECTOR, FBI
1/31/49
There have been day time sightings which are tentatively considered to possibly
rosemble the exhaust of some type of jet propelled object. Night-time sightings
have taken the form of lights usually described as brilliant groen, similar
to a green traffic signal or green ncon light. Some reports indicated that the
light began and ended with a red or orange flash. Other reports have given the
color as red, white, blu-white, and yellowish green. Trailing lights some-
times observed are said to be red. The spoctrum analysis of one light indicates
that it may be a copper compound of the type known to be used in rocket
experiments and which completely disintegrates upon explosion, leaving no
debris. It is noted that no debris has ever been known to be located anywhere
resulting from the uncxplained phenomena.
Recent observations have indicated that the unidentified phenomena travel at
a rate of speed estimated at C. minimum of three miles per second and a maximum
of twelve miles per second, or 2. mean calculated speed of seven and one-half
miles a second, or 27,000 miles an hour. Their reported course indicates that
they travel on an East. - West line with probability that they approach from
the Northern Quadrant, which would be the last stage of the great circle route
if they originated in Russia. When observed they scom to bc in lcvel flight
at a height of six to ten milcs and thus traveling on 2. tangent to the earth's
surface. They occasionally dip at the end of the path and on two occasions
a dcfinite vertical change in path was indicated. These phonomena have not
been known to have been sighted, however, at any intermediate point between
Russia and Los Alamos, but only at the end of the flight toward the apparent
"target", namely, Los Alamos.
In every case but one the shape of the objects has been reported as round
in a point of light with 2. definitc area to the light's source. One report
gives 2. diamond shape; another indicates that trailing lights are elongated.
The size is usually compared to onc-fourth the diamoter of the full moon, and
they have also been compared in size to a basketball with trailing lights the
size of a baseball.
On no occasion has sound been associated directly with the phenomena, but
uncxplained sounds have bcen reported from Los Alamos, On two occasions
roports have been received of the sighting of multiplc units.
Some nine scientific reasons are stated to exist which indicated that the
phenomona observed are not due to meteorites. The only conclusions reached
thus far are that they are either hithcrt unobscrved natural phenomena or
that they are man made, No scientific experiments are known to exist in this
country which could give rise to such phenomena.
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DIRECTOR, FBI
1/31/49
Mrs. MADELINE GWYNNE MERCHANT was the subject of a letter from the Atlanta office
to the Bureau dated August 10, 1948, entitled, "MADELINE GWYNNE merchant;
INFORMATION CONCERNING."
She has written many letters to Military Authorities concerning her theories
regarding Atomic Energy. She has generally been considered unreliable and
possibly mentally unbalanced. She, however, has submitted to Military
authorities the only theory thus far known that has any credibility at all,
namely, that the lights are manifestations of cosmic rays which are directed
toward a. specific point. She further theorizes that such rays may interfere
with the ignition of motors and may account for various unexplained air crashes.
The above is submitted for the confidential information of the Bureau and
offices to which copies of this letter are directed SO that these offices may
evaulate any such reports they may have received or may receive in the future.
It is noted that the Fourth Army has the responsibility of protecting vital
installations at Los Alamos, New licxico, Sandia Base, New Mexico, and Camp
Hood, Texas. Any information developed should be expeditiously transmitted to
G-2, Fourth Army.
It is further noted that G-2 and O.S.I. are actively engaged in investigating
this matter. No investigation is being conducted by this office.
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STANDARD NO. 64
Office Memorandum
UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO
:
Mr. Ladd
of
DATE: March 14, 1949
FROM :
Mr.
Fletcher
HBT
Mr. Tolson
Mr. Clegg
Mr. Glavin
Mr. Ladd
SUBJECT:
Mr. Nichols
FLYING DISCS
Mr. Rosen
Mr. Tracy
Mr. Egan
Mr. Gurnea
Mr. Harbo
Mr. Mohr
PURPOSE
Mr. Pennington
Mr. Quinn Tamm
Tele. Room
Mr. Nease
Miss Holmes
The approval of the Executives Conference is requested for the
Miss Gandy
attached SAC letter furnishing to the field the type of information
desired by the Intelligence Division of the Air Force in connection with
the captioned matter.
BACKGROUND
You will recall that by Bureau Bulletin #57, Series 1947, dated
October 1, 1947, the field was advised that effective as of that date the
Bureau had discontinued its investigative activities in connection with
flying discs. The field was advised that all future reports concerning
this matter received in the field should be referred to the Air Forces.
Colonel C. D. Gasser, Resident Engineer, Air Materiel Command,
Nuclear Energy for the Propulsion of Aircraft Research, Oak Ridge,
Tennessee, has recently and confidentially advised the Bureau that
flying discs are believed by the Air Force to be man-made missiles
rather than some natural phenomenon and that as much as four years ago
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it was learned that some type of flying discs were being experimented
upon by the Russians. It was further determined from Colonel Gasser that
most all of the flying discs seen by persons in the United States approached
this country from a northerly direction and returned in the same direction,
indicating the strong possibility that they are coming from Russia.
The Department of the Air Force has furnished to the Bureau a
sufficient number of copies of a memorandum dated February 15, 1949 captioned
"Unconventional Aircraft" which can be furnished to our field offices.
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RECOMMENDATION
information received in the field relating to the captioned ENE matter.
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It is recommended that the attached SAC letter and enclosure be
forwarded to the field to advise them of the type of questions to be asked
of persons who voluntarily submit information relative to "flying discs.'
Although no active investigation will be conducted by the Bureau, it is
believed that the c aptioned matter is of sufficient importance to the
internal security of the country that our field offices should secure as
much information as possible from compainants in order to assist the
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STANDARD FORM NO. 64
Office Memorandum
UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
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DATE: March 22, 1949
FROM : SAC, SAN ANTONIO
SUBJECT: PROTECTION OF VITAL INSTALLATIONS
BUREAU FILE 65-58300
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declarption
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0 71ying Dises
Re San Antonio letter to the Director dated January 31, 1949, which outlined
discussion had at recent weekly Intelligence Conferences of G-2, ONI, OSI and
FBI in the Fourth Army Area concerning "Unidentified Aircraft" or "Unidentified
Areial Phenomena" therwise known as "flying discs", "Flying saucers" and "balls
of fire". It is repeated that this matter is considered secret by Intelligence
Officers of both the Army and the Air Force.
G-2, 4th Army, has now advised that the above matter is now termed "Unconven-
tional Aircraft" and investigations concerning such matters have been given
the name "Project Grudge".
G-2, 4th Army, advised on February 16, 1949, a conference was held at Los
Alamos, New Mexico, to consider the so-called "Green fire ball phenomena"
which began about December 5, 1948. It was brought out this question has been
classified "secret" and that investigation is now the primary responsibility
of the U.S. Air Force, Air Materiel Command, T-2.
Dr. LINCOLN LA PAZ of the University of New Mexico, discussed one siting which
he himself had made which was termed the "Starvation peak incident" and des-
cribed the following characteristics which indicated that the phenomenon
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could not be classified as a normal meteorite fall.
1. There was an initial bright light (no period of intensity increase)
and constant intensity during the duration of the phenomenon.
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2. Yellow green color about 5200 Angstroms.
3. Essentially horizontal path.
4. Trajectory traversed at constant angular velocity.
5. Duration about two seconds.
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March 22, 1949
It was brought out that since December 5, 1948 there have been more than
ten incidents analagous to the "green fireball" above described and some
twenty others with miner deviations from the above. It is also pointed out
that the only sitings which had occurred seemed to have been confined to the
Los Alamos, Las Vegas, and West Texas triangle,
G-2 also advised that as of November 1, 1948, information had been received
from higher Military authorities that the Air Force had advised that such
sitings occur periodically and that another period of sitings was then
imminent. Further, on February 14, 1949, higher Military authorities advised
that it was believed that ultimately it would be found that the phenomena
in question have 2. natural explanation.
It is further noted that about 7:30 p.m., March 6, 1949, what was at first
thought to be a flare was seen approximately one-half mile north of Killeen
Base in the area of the Vital Installation at Camp Hood, Texas, and a second
flare was noticed at 1:45 a.m., March 7, 1949, approximately three miles from
Killeen Base. It has since been concluded that the flares seen near Killeen
are probably similar to the phenomena previously noted in the Los Alamos,
Sandia Basc Area although these are the first sitings of such phenomena near
Camp Hood.
There appears to be reason to believe that the above-mentioned phenomena may
be connected with secret experiments being conducted by some U.S. Government
Agency as it is believed that the United States is farther advanced in guided
missile development than any foreign power.
Although the primary responsibility for investigating such matters is now
with the U.S. A.F. Air Matericl Command, G-2, 4th Army is still interested
in being advised of any further sitings of such phenomena which might be
observed.
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THIS CASE ORIGINATED AT
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REPORT MADE AT
DATE WHEN MADE
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TITLE
CHARACTER OF CASE
FLYING DISCS:
LONNIE EDWARD NOACK, complainant;
Houston, Texas, December 27, 1948
INTERNAL SECURITY M
SYNOPSIS OF FACTS:
Object described by complainant as possible flying disc
determined to be a model tow target or kite which had
been abandoned after unsuccessful tests. Portions of
target positively identified by HENRY T. RICE, L.A.
manufacturer and erstwhile financial backer as being
part of the model target or kite.
RUC
REFERENCE:
Teletype from Houston to Director dated 12/28/48.
Teletype from Los Angeles to Director dated 12/28/48.
Teletype from Los Angeles to Director dated 12/29/48.
DETAILS:
This investigation is predicated upon the receipt of referenced
teletype from the Houston Office advising that LONNIE EDWARD NOACK had located
an object in the desert near Helendale, California, resembling a flying disc.
This object, described as a flying disc, had been located by NOACK, R. C.
PERSON and Mr. and Mrs. NATHAN SMITH of South Pasadena, California, approxi-
mately one hundred and fifty miles northeast of Pasadena or about twenty
miles from Lone Pine, California.
Special Agent EDWARD OLSEN determined that R. C. PERSON, Vasco
Manufacturing Company, was traveling in Arizona and not available for interview.
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TITLE
CHARACTER OF CASE
FLYING DISCS;
LONNIE EDWARD NOACK, complainant;
Houston, Texas, December 27, 1948
INTERNAL SECURITY M
SYNOPSIS OF FACTS:
Object described by complainant as possible flying disc
determined to be a model tow target or kite which had
been abandoned after unsuccessful tests. Portions of
target positively identified by HENRY T. RICE, L.A.
manufacturer and erstwhile financial backer as being
part of the model target or kite.
RUC
REFERENCE:
Teletype from Houston to Director dated 12/28/48.
Teletype from Los Angeles to Director dated 12/28/48.
Teletype from Los Angeles to Director dated 12/29/48.
DETAILS:
This investigation is predicated upon the receipt of referenced
teletype from the Houston Office advising that LONNIE EDWARD NOACK had located
an object in the desert near Helendale, California, resembling a flying disc.
This object, described as a flying disc, had been located by NOACK, R. C.
PERSON and Mr. and Mrs. NATHAN SMITH of South Pasadena, California, approxi-
mately one hundred and fifty miles northeast of Pasadena or about twenty
miles from Lone Pine, California.
Special Agent EDWARD OLSEN determined that R. C. PERSON, Vasco
Manufacturing Company, was traveling in Arizona and not available for interview.
APPROVED AND
SPECIAL AGENT
FORWARDED:
IN CHARGE
DO NOT WRITE IN THESE SPACES
COPIES OF THIS REPORT
5 Bureau
2 - Houston
1 - IFO #2, Fort MacArthur
2 - Los Angeles
v. 8. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE 7-2034
L. A. 105-445
Mr. N. SMITH, SMITH MANUFACTURING COMPANY, 105 Pasadena Avenue,
South Pasadena, California, who was with NOACK at the time the object was
discovered, advised Special Agent EDWARD OLSEN on December 28, 1948, that
he was present at the time the object was located on his, SMITH's, landing
field near Helendale, California. SMITH advised that they had taken some
pieces off the object and that subsequently, upon returning to Los Angeles,
he had learned that the object was actually a model kite or tow target which
had been built by the OHLSON AND RICE MANUFACTURING COMPANY of Los Angeles. Callf
Mr. SMITH stated that he had talked to both OHLSON and RICE and that they
had admitted to him having experimented with the object over his, SMITH's,
airfield. Mr. SMITH made available three of the parts of the target which
he had secured while at the airfield.
The information furnished by Mr. SMITH was verified by Special
Agent EDWARD OLSEN in an interview with Mr. HENRY T.ARICE, OHLSON AND RICE
MANUFACTURING COMPANY, 3340 Emery Street, Los Angeles. The parts made
available by Mr. SMITH were exhibited to Mr. RICE, and he advised that
the model tow target or kite had been taken to the airfield for flight
tests by himself and CLAUDE LEROINWOLFORD, 5454 Chesley Avenue, Los
Angeles 43, California. Mr. RICE stated that WOLFORD is the inventor
of the object and OHLSON AND RICE had originally agreed to finance him
to develop the tow target or kite as a toy. Mr. RICE explained that
they were primarily interested in developing the contraption as a toy
kite to be sold in a much smaller model; however, the inventor, against
their wishes, had developed a much larger model which he had hoped to
sell as a tow target to be used behind airplanes. Mr. RICE stated that
since he had gone that far they felt that they should give the project
a test and thereupon they took it out to the desert as a precautionary
measure. Mr. RICE stated that the flight test was a failure; the model
crashed soon after it was airborne and was thereafter abandoned on the
field.
In the absence of her husband, Mrs. CLAUDE LEROY WOLFORD,
5454 Chesley Avenue, was interviewed and exhibited the three parts
of the kite made available by Mr. SMITH. She readily identified the
three items as part of a kite her husband had built for the RICE
MANUFACTURING COMPANY. She advised that she also accompanied her
husband to the desert at the time the tests were made. She explained
that the kite had crashed and that the manufacturing company did not
want to put any more cash in it so it was abandoned on the desert.
The three parts of the kite were returned to NATHAN SMITH on
January 7, 1949. The Sub-District Office, I. G. (USAF), 1206 Santee
Street, Terminal Annex, Los Angeles, California, was apprised of the
information contained herein immediately upon its receipt.
REFERRED UPON COMPLETION TO THE OFFICE OF ORIGIN
2.
FREE
Anited States Department of Du
PERSONAL ATTENTION
THE
Federal Bureau of Investigation
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Washington 25, D. C.
SAC LETTER NO. 38
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IN REPLY, PLEASE REFER TO
Series 1949
FILE No.
-10 11/15/8
March 25,
MEMO FOR MR. HOOVER
CALLAHAN
HINCE
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NAUGHTEN
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GURNEA
MOBLEY
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WHITSON
DECLASSIFIED ON 4-18-83 BY SPEBTJ/dcgo
RE: FLYING DISCS
Your attention is directed to Bureau Bulletin #57, Series 1947, dated
October 1, 1947, relating to the discontinuance of investigation by this Bureau in
matters concerning flying discs.
For your confidential information, a reliable and confidential source
has advised the Bureau that flying discs are believed to be man-made missiles rather
than natural phenomenon. It has also been determined that for approximately the
past four years the USSR has been engaged in experimentation on an unknown type
of flying disc.
ne
The Department of the Air Force has furnished to the Bureau the attached
memorandum classified "restricted" dated February 15, 1949, entitled "Unconventional
ORIGINAL FILED
Aircraft." This memorandum is being furnished to you in order that all agents
assigned to your office can be informed of the type of information desired by the
Air Force in this matter.
As set forth in Bureau Bulletin #57, referred to above, no investigation
should be conducted by your office relative to flying discs, however, the attached
memorandum should be referred to in securing data from persons who desire to
voluntarily furnish information to your office relating to flying discs.
Very truly yours,
John Edgar Hoover
Director
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FLYING DISCS. INFORMATION RECEIVED AT LOGAN, UTAH ELEVEN AM TODAY
THAT AT NINE AM A GUARD AT THE ARMY GENERAL SUPPLY DEPOT, OGDEN, UTAH,
OBSERVED WHAT APPEARED TO BE AN EXPLOSION IN THE AIR ACCOMPANIED BY
A FLASH OF LIGHT FOLLOWED BY THE FALLING OF SILVER COLORED OBJECT.
THIS WAS SEEN AT HIGH ALTITUDE WEST OF OGDEN NEAR THE TOWN OF TAYLOR,
UTAH. ABOUT THE SAME TIME LT. RON HATFIELD OF LOGAN, UTAH PD SAW TWO
PUFFS OF SMOKE HIGH IN THE AIR WEST OF LOGAN FOLLOWED BY FALLING OF
SILVER COLORED OBJECT. ALSO AT ABOUT SAME TIME UTAH HIGHWAY PATROLMAN
L. N. JEPPSON AT MANTUA, UTAH, SAW A SILVER COLORED OBJECT HIGH UP
APPROACHING THE MOUNTAINS AT SARDINE CANYON BETWEEN LOGAN AND BRIGHAM
CITY, UTAH AND AS OBJECT NEARED THE MOUNTAIN IT APPEARED 7, EXPLODE IN A
FLASH OF FIRE. SEVERAL RESIDENTS AT TRENTON, UTAH, WHICH IS WEST OF
LOGAN, HAVE REPORTED TO so, LOGAN, SEEING WHAT APPEARED TO BE TWO AERIAL
EXPLOSIONS FOLLOWED BY FALLING OBJECT WEST OF TRENTON AT ABOUT NINE
TWENTY AM TODAY. ABOVE INFORMATION IMMEDIATELY FURNISHED TO OSI,
HILL FIELD, UTAH. ANY FURTHER PERTINENT DEVELOPMENTS WILL BE FURNISHED
BUREAU FOR INFORMATION. OSI HILL FIELD HAS JUST NOW ADVISED ABOVE
PHENOMENA PROBABLY CAUSED BY TWO B TWENTYNINES FROM WENDOVER FIELD
WHICH ARE PRACTICE-BOMBING IN THE DESERT WEST OF LOGAN FROM 8384 EXTREMELY
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TO:
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FROM:
Director, FBI
SUBJECT: FLYING DISCS
Reference is made to your letter dated April 5, 1949 captioned as above
in which you request a copy of the Air Force memorandum mentioned in SAC Letter
#38, Series 1949 dated March 25, 1949.
In response thereto there is enclosed herewith the pamphlet captioned,
"Unconventional Aircraft" issued by the Department of the Air Force under date of
Mr. TolsoFebruary
Mr. Clegg
15, 1949 to which SECTION reference was made in the above-mentioned SAC Letter.
Mr. Glavin
Mr. Ladd
BY
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Mr. Rosen
SPECIAL MESSENGER
Mr. Tracy
Mr. Egan
Mr. Gurnea
CC - Foreign Service Desk (detached)
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Mr. Mohr
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April 5, 1949
To:
Director, FBI
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From:
John N. Speakes, Legal Attache
Subject: FLYING DISCS
Reference is made to SAC Letter #38, Series 1949,
dated March 25, 1949, advising that a copy of a memorandum
from the Department of the Air Force, dated February 15,
1949, and entitled "Unconventional Aircraft," as furnished
to the Bureau, was being forwarded to this office in order
that all agents assigned to the Mexico City Office might be
informed of the type of information desired by the Air Force
in this matter.
This is to advise that the above-mentioned enclosure
was not received by this office and it is respectfully requested
that a copy of this memorandum be forwarded to Mexico City.
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SUBJECT:
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WADE H HARRISON - INFORMANT
FLYING DISCS
FORT SMITH, ARKANSAS (4-16-49)
WADE H. HARRISON, residence address Route 1, Box 293,
Fort Smith, Arkansas, is employed as a Special Delivery messenger by
the Fort Smith Post Office Department.
HARRISON stated that at 5:25 p.m., Saturday, April 16, 1949,
while delivering special delivery mail in Fort Smith, he stopped his
automobile at a signal light located at the intersection of North
Eleventh Street and Grand Avenue. He glanced up at thestop light and
observed a brilliant object moving in a southeastern direction. He
presumed the object was approximately 2 miles high. He got out of his
automobile and pointed up with the suggestion that other automobile
drivers, stopped for the signal light, could see the object. He does
not know who any of the other people are or what they saw. He was
obliged to move on after the light changed and the drivers began honking
their horns. He watched the object until it was obscured by the line
of trees in that section. He estimated he watched it travel some
3 or 4 miles before he lost sight of it. He stated the weather was
clear, visibility was good, and there were no clouds near the object.
The object made no noise perceptible to HARRISON. However, he commented
that he was stopped at an intersection where the traffic was heavy and
there was considerable noise. He first thought possibly he had seen
some type of a reflector on an airplane, but could not locate or hear
a plane anywhere.
HARRISON drove to the 1400 Block of North "C" Street, where
he observed an Army officer, wearing the insignia of a major or lieutenant
colonel, standing back of the officer's automobile. He stopped and
asked the officer if he had observed the flying object. The officer,
name unknown to the informant, answered negatively and then remarked,
"I am glad other people are also reporting seeing flying objects."
The officer then related that the day previous, Friday, April 15, 1949,
while the officer was traveling out of Oklahoma City toward Fort Smith,
his wife observed a flying object in the sky very similar to that
described by HARRISON. The officer stated he saw the object too, but
furnished no more information.
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inches in diameter from the distance he saw it. It was very bright
and reflected a light in a manner similar to a mirror. He reported the
incident to the local press at Fort Smith and inquired if anyone had
made a similar report. He received a negative reply. In this connection,
please find attached an article from the front page of the Southwest-Times
Record newspaper published at Fort Smith, Arkansas, Sunday, April 17,
1949.
The interview with HARRISON developed he is 52 years of age.
He has had considerable college training and attended the seminary at
Westminister, Maryland 21/2 years. He stated that his eyesight is very
good for a man of his age and that he has worn reading glasses only
for the past few years. He was positive he had observed the object
as related above. He was unable of course to state just what the object
was or furnish any additional information concerning it. No information
was available at Fort Smith indicating the object had fallen in that
section or that it was observed by others. The Little Rock Office is
making no further inquiries concerning the subject matter.
The offices of OSI and MID have been notified of the informa-
tion set out above.
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Local Man Reports Seeing What
He Believes Was "Flying Disc"
Wade Harrison, Fort Smith post office employe, reported Sat-
urday he had observed what he believed was a "flying disc."
Harrison saw what he believed was a "flying disc" as he was
driving east on Grand avenue at Eleventh street. He said the object
was small and was moving southeastward at a rapid rate of speed.
He said the object resembled a tiny mirror.
There were no other reports of "flying discs" in the area Sat-
urday.
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OFFICE OF DIRECTOR
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UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
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John Edgar Hoover, Director, Federal Bureau of Investigation
Re:
FLYING DISCS
A reliable and confidential source has recently
advised this Bureau that during the first part of April,
1949, Mr. C. A. Atkins, 4312 Los Feliz, Hollywood 27,
California, had informed him that three employees of the
Department of Recreation in Parks in the city of Los Angeles,
California, had noticed objects in the sky which appeared to
be flying discs.
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Mr. Walter Winchell
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My Dear Winchell.
To Hoorer
With reference to flying Disc's or
other flying objects, thought you would be interested
in the following. It in a measure substantiates your
statements.
Friday of last week, three of our de-
partment employees were working in Griffith Park the
nations largest pak) when one of them, De Jarnett by name
noticed an object sailing through the sky and took a
good look to try and distinguish it. from planes that
frequently fly over.
About the same time two of his men
working about a half mile away saw the object. They
checked with each other and arrived at the same conc-
lusion. It was a Disc and they ran to a telephone to
report the incident. In the meantime DeJarnett started
to the location where his men were working to check and
see if they had seen the object.
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type was in the air and when the third man stated he
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Reference is made to your letter dated April 4, 1949, captioned
"Protection of Vital Installations." You are instructed in the future to
information relating to flying disks under the above caption.
In regard to your request for information that would substantiate or
discredit the statements made by Walter Winchell on his broadcast of
April 3, 1949, your attention is directed to SAC Letter No. 38 dated March 25,
1949, captioned "Flying Disks."
For your strictly confidential information, the data contained in
SAC Letter No. 38 was obtained in confidence from a colonel in the United
States Air Materiel Command, who obtained his information from persons
actively engaged in the investigation of this subject.
No interview with Walter Winchell will be made by the Bureau con-
cerning the source of his statements referred to in your referenced letter.
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Office Memorandum
UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
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Director, FBI
DATE: April 4, 1949
FROM
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SAC, San Antonio
AIR MAIL
SPECIAL DELIVERY
SUBJECT:
PROTECTION OF VITAL INSTALLATIONS
(Bureau file 65-48300)
Reference is made to San Antonio letter to the Bureau dated March
22, 1949 which submitted information related by military authorities concerning
unconventional aircraft.
The Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff, G-2, 4th Army, has advised
ALL INFORMATION CONTAINED
that at 11:50 P.M. March 31, 1949 a lighted object about the size of a basketball,
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reddish white in color, followed by a fire trail, was observed southwest of
Killeen Base, adjacent to Camp Hood, Texas. The observation was made by 1st
Lt. FREDERICK W. DAVIS, who was in charge of a platoon, Company C, 12th Armored
Infantry Battalion, which is assigned as a part of an alert force (called force
Abel) from Camp Hood, whose function is to protect the installation at Killeen
Base.
Lt. DAVIS advised that the object was at an altitude estimated at
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6,000 ft., was traveling párallel to the ground and passed directly over him at
a rapid rate of speed. It was in view 10 to 15 seconds and suddenly disappeared
high in the sky without having descended. No sound or odor was detected. The
night was clear and visibility good. The object passed almost directly over the
air strip at Killeen Base.
Flying Disks
When Lt. DAVIS attempted to advise his headquarters by telephone
immediately after the sighting, he heard static or electrical interference on
the telephone line which he stated might be possible radio interference.
G-2 has advised that other lights of unknown origin were observed on
March 6, 7, 8 and 17, 1949, by military personnel of the alert force stationed
approximately 1000 yards east of the fences which surround Killeen Base.
The object sighted on March 31, 1949 was reported as being of a
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different nature from the lights seen earlier in the month.
It is noted that Mr. WALTER WINCHELL, on his Sunday evening broadcast,
April 3, 1949, stated that "flying discs" seen in this country definitely
emanated from Russia.
On April 4, 1949, medicath Army, contacted this office, inquiring as
to whether we had any information that would substantiali or discredit the state-
ments made by WALTER WINCHELL.
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SA-100-7545
In view of the interest and concern of 4th Army military authorities
who have the duty of protecting the vital installations at Los Alamos, N. M.,
Sandia Base, N. M. in the El Paso Division, and the Camp Hood area in the San
Antonio Division, it is suggested that the Bureau may desire to arrange to have
Mr. WINCHELL interviewed concerning the source of his information that "flying
discs" emanate from Russia.
It would be appreciated if the Bureau can supply any information that
can be transmitted to military authorities which would cla rify this matter.
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141 Claire Drive, Southeast
Atlanta, Georgia
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Dear Mr. Davis:
Your letter of April 27, 1949, has been received,
and I want to thank you for sending me the newspaper
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clipping which you enclosed together with your observations
concerning the designs you submitted to the federal
government in 1942. Although I would like to be of service,
checks of the type you desire are not within the scope of
this Bureau's activities. It was very thoughtful of you to
contact me in that regard.
Sincerely yours,
John Edgar Hoover
Director
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Mr. Tolson
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Saucers
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Who Chased One
By United Press
DAYTON, Ohio, April 27.-The
only airman who ever got near a
flying saucer crashed and died be-
fore he could describe it, the Day-
ton Journal-Herald said today.
The newspaper printed a lengthy
dispatch on the mysterious flying
discs, based, it said, on hitherto un-
published reports assembled at the
Wright-Patterson Air Force base.
The Air Force investigation has
proved that the flying saucers "are
not a joke." Neither "are they a
cause for alarm to the popula-
tion," the newspaper said.
The closest any airman came to
the mystery discs was on Jan. 7,
1948, when one was sighted over
Fort Knox, Ky., the dispatch said.
Four fighter planes were sent aloft
to intercept it, but only Capt.
close. Thomas F. Mantell was able to get
"I'm closing in to take a good
look," the newspaper quoted him as
reporting by radio. "It looks metal-
lic and of tremendous size. It's go-
ing up now as fast as I am. That's
360 miles an hour. I'm going up
after it. At 20,000 feet, if I'm no
closer, I'll abandon chase."
Mantell's plane crashed a few
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The paper said a report now on
file at Wright-Patterson Air Force
Base lists 240 domestic and 30 for-
on the other hand it was not im-
are
eign accounts of flying discs as
possible that they were. Later the
consi
having been investigated. Of these,
Air Force announced it was not
form
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making any further comments on
to a
weather balloons and the like and
the discs.
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on which its story is based said
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there was no evidence that the
existence of some of the remaining
discs were guided missiles fired
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BY SPECIAL MESSENGER
To:
Director of Special Investigations, (I. G.)
Department of the Air Force
The Pentagon
Washington 25, D. C.
From:
John Edgar Hoover - Director, Federal Bureau of Investigation
Subject: INFORMATION CONCERNING FLYING SAUCERS
MRS. FRANK GARDNER - INFORMANT
Enclosed is a photostatic copy of a letter dated April 29, 1949,
received by this Bureau from Mrs. Frank Gardner concerning flying saucers.
The correspondent has been advised that a copy of her letter has
been forwarded to the United States Air Force.
This letter is being forwarded to you for any action you may
deem advisable.
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STANDARD FORM NO. 64
Office Memorandum
UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO
: Director, FBI
DATE: May 13, 1949
FROM : SAC, Los Angeles
ABAO SUBJECT: "FLYING DISK" REPORT
INFORMATION CONCERNING
On May 5, 1949 Mr. MEL HODELL, a reporter for the Sun-Star
newspaper, Merced, California, advised Special Agent MARLIN W. JOHNSON,
that his paper had been contacted by Lt. Col. STANLEY JACOBS, Intelligence
Officer, Castle Air Force Base, Merced, California, relative to any
reports that the newspaper might have received concerning "flying disks"
in the Merced vicinity.
Mr. HODELL stated a close friend of his, one WILLIAM H. PARROTT,
12-A Langdon Villa, Merced, had advised him that he had observed a
strange object, and as he is in the Air Corps Reserve, he reported same
to the Intelligence Officer at Castle Field.
On the same date Mr. GEORGE BREMER, Detachment Commander, Office
of Special Investigations, Castle Air Force Base, Merced, California, advised
SA MARLIN W. JOHNSON that he had heard that an individual had reported
seeing a "flying disk" to the Intelligence Office at the Base but that
the Intelligence Officer had not furnished the information to him. Mr.
BREMER later on the same date contacted SA JOHNSON and exhibited a letter
written by STANLEY F. JACOBS, Lt. Col., USAF, Adjutant (Intelligence
Officer) to Commanding General, Air Material Command, Wright-Patterson
AFB, Wright Field, Ohio. This letter contained a statement given by
Mr. WILLIAM H. PARROTT which read as follows: "I had occasion to step
from my home, located approximately one mile west of the town of Merced,
on the night of April 4, 1949, at approximately 2220. My attention was
diverted to a clicking noise of considerable intensity. I stopped on the
sidewalk about 20 feet from the front steps and recognized the source of
this clicking to be in the sky in an area about 40 degrees from the surface
of the earth in an easterly direction. The sky condition was 20000 thin
broken with 12 miles visibility and surface winds were reported as north
nine M.P.H. at Castle Air Force weather station. My home is approximately
seven miles south of Castle Air Force Base and in an area somewhat sheltered
from surface winds and no appreciable surface wind was apparent at the
time the aural observation was made. After about ten seconds of looking
into the area described previously as being the source of this sound, an
object was observed blanking out stars in describing a flight path in a
west or northwesterly direction. Only one object was apparent, its shape
can be described as only a solid mass. Its size can be estimated as four
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dull surfacted, light colored metal. The only ground lights of in-
tensity were a row of street lights behind me one half block which leads
me to believe the under surface of this object to be curved in shape.
"This object when first sighted, was moving very slowly in a west
or northwesterly direction. I would estimate that I had it in my range
of vision for 35 seconds, after having heard it about ten seconds before
locating it. It passed on beyond the house and maneuvered through an
arc of turn to the left of about ninety degrees. The clicking sound was
continuous throughout this turn, however, it became louder as it returned
on its new heading of south or southwest. On its return the clicking
sound became louder, but I was unable to see it at this time. The click-
ing stopped when it was at its greatest intensity and appeared to come
from a position directly over head. I was unable to see the object after
the sound stopped.
"This clicking sound, retained the same pitch and speed through-
out the entire course observed, but intensity varied. There was not
whistle or roar, but only the clicking noise which might be compared to
beaters of a home mixer that were not properly meshed. No lights or
flame were observed during the entire course with exception of the
previous described reflections twice. No exhaust trail was distinguish-
able.
"My dog was with me and directed her attention in the general
direction of this object's flight throughout its course. She had been
romping with me on coming out of the house but without spoken word
stopped and directed her attention on to the previously described area.
The clicking sound might not have been unusual to the dog, but there is
a possibility of sounds on wave lengths discernable only to the dog,
being emitted."
It is to be noted that Mr. PARROTT is a member of the Active
USAF Reserve with rank of Major. He attained rating of pilot in August
1941 and has approximately 2200 hours flying time. During his active
duty period in WW2 he stated that he had considerable night flying
experience in connection with his military assignment. The Intelligence
Officer in the above mentioned letter made the following statement, "An
attempt to locate other witnesses in the area or through the local news-
paper proved unsuccessful".
Mr. BREMER advised that he is planning to clear with his head-\
quarters office and will probably conduct an investigation.
The above is being furnished for the information of the Bureau.
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Office Memorandum
UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO
: MR. FLETCHER
DATE: May 26, 1949
FROM : V. P. KEAY
mgt.
Mr. V.Br Tolson
Mr. E. A. Tarm
Mr. Clegg
Mr. Glav
SUBJECT: FLYING DISCS
Mr. Ladd
Mr. Nichols
Mr. Rosen
Mr. Tracy
BACKGROUND:
Mr. Egan
Mr. Gurnea
Mr. Harbo
Mr. Mohr
Mr. Pennington
Walter Winchell forwarded to the Director a Western Union
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telegram he had received from Robert Ripley which stated that he, Ripley,
Mr. Nease
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had the only authentic Japanese flying saucer ever recovered in this
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DETAILS:
This matter was discussed by Special Agent Reynolds with the Intelligence
Division of the Army, who advised that they had no information concerning any
Japanese flying saucer. ever having been recovered in the United States.
This matter was discussed with Colonel William E. Carpenter, OSI-USAF,
who advised on April 27, 1949 that he had interested himself in the flying saucers
and related subjects and that in so far as could be determined by him through his
sources in the Air Force, which are excellent, there is no authentic information
available concerning the phenomenon of the flying saucers. He advised he would check
with the authorities at Wright Field to determine if any information is available
concerning the recovery of a Japanese flying saucer.
Colonel Carpenter has now advised that there is no information available
in any arm of the Air Force to the effect that any flying saucers of any kind have
been recovered in the United States. Colonel Carpenter stated delay had been
encountered in determining this fact inasmuch as inquiries had been directed through
individuals known to him and trusted by him and not through the usual channels
from which he possibly would receive a stock answer.
The details of this case were not discussed by either Special Agents Reynolds
or Sanders with the Army or Air Force and they are not aware of the telegram sent
by Mr. Ripley to Mr. Winchell.
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Mrs. Frank Gardner
2310 W. Garvey
El Monte, California
Dear Mrs. Gardner:
I wish to acknowledge your letter dated April 29, 1949, and to
express my appreciation for your thoughtfulness in writing to me.
In view of the contents of your letter, I have taken the liberty
of sending a copy to the United States Air Force.
In the future, if you have information which may be of interest
Flying Dises
to this Bureau, you may find it more convenient to communicate with Mr. R. B.
Hood, Special Agent in Charge of our Los Angeles Office, 900 Security Building.
Los Angeles 13, California.
Sincerely yours,
John Edgar Hoover
Director
cc Los Angeles with copies XR of incoming.
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enclosing a clipping from a Spanish language newspaper in Texas. She was apparent-
ly dissatisfied with the manner in which the Latin Americans were being treated
in Texas. A cordial letter of acknowledgement was sent to her. (100-33339)
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Miss Holmes
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Miss Lochrie stated she was going to be in Washington for a
few days and that she was staying at the Ambassador Hotel. She stated
that Roy Palmer, Managing Editor of the Jeff Davis Publishing Company in
Chicago, had some information regarding flying discs. Miss Lochrie said
that Palmer's theory was to the effect that when people died their souls
entered a space on this earth which is, of course, invisible to human
eyes. He said that in this soul world there are good and bad people and
that they have become involved in a war. According to Miss Lochrie, Palmer's
theory is that the flying discs which have been seen are the explosives be-
ing used in the warfare between the good and bad souls.
Miss Lochrie stated that the real purpose of her visit to the
Bureau was to get her own name cleared. She said that the FBI has been con-
ducting investigation regarding her and that she wanted to know the results
of the investigation. I asked her what kind of an investigation the FBI had
been making regarding her and she stated she was under suspicion of espionage
activities. I informed her that I could not furnish her with any information
which is contained in the Bureau's files inasmuch as our files have been
designated as confidential by the Attorney General.
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present activities that she had been in the Wacs as a private and had re-
ceived an honorable discharge in 1945. She said at the present time she is
working as a model in Chiçago.
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The Bureau is advised that through the Office of Naval Intelligence,
New Orleans, Louisiana, this office has been advised that within the past ten
days three sightings of flying discs have been reported in the City of New Or-
leans. The information seems to be that the single discs were in straight flight
and traveling in a general direction of North, in late afternoon, about the size
of an observation plane, but the shape of a saucer. The Navy stated that two
witnesses have advised that the object was traveling end over end; that weather
conditions were good; that sightings were made outdoors by persons who did not
wear glasses; that the dates were May 18, 19 and 23, 1949. The Navy states
that it was possible these objects were weather balloons, but that these are
used from only one airport, released over an hour before the times of sighting
and would generally be out of sight in a few minutes.
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