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Mr. Tolson
Mr. E. A. Tamm
Mr. Clegg
Mr. Coffey
Mr. Glavin
Mr. Ladd
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Mr. Nichol
Mr. Rosen
Mr. Tracy
Mr. Carson
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Mr. Egan
Priest Finds 'Whirring' Disc
Mr. Hendon
Mr. Pennington
In Yard and Holds It for FBI
Mr. Quinn Tamm
Mr. Nease
Chicago, July 6 (U.P.).-A Catho-
FBI office said he hadn't heard
Miss Gandy
lic priest at Grafton, Wis., said
yet about the disc but that an offi-
cial report might be at his office.
tonight that a round, metal disc,
The flying discs have been re-
which might be one of the myster-
ported "seen" by persons in 30
ious "lying aucers, had crashed
States. but Brasky's disc was the
into his parish yard and that he
first one that actually had been
is holding it for the Federal
found-if that is what was found.
Bureau OF Investigation.
His report came a few hours
The Rev. Joseph Brasky of St.
after a military plane made an
Joseph's Church at Grafton, 45
unsuccessful speed dash in an ate
miles north of Milwaukee, said he
tempt to track down one of the
total
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heard swishing and whirring
discs and the Army and scientists
noise this morning. A second later,
sought to ascertain whether coas
he said, he heard a thud and a
to-coast reports about the discs
He
nut
mild explosion.
zooming through the sky were fact
He investigated and found a
or fancy.
sheet metal disc about 18 inches in
Army planes scoured the north-
diameter, resembling a circular
west Pacific skies for them without
saw blade.
success today and one "eyewitness"
"The object still was warm,
even reported having seen one of
weighed about four or five pounds
the discs take off in Arizona. A
and was about one eighth of an
St. Louis railroad man exhibited
inch thick," he said.
some paper "dises" he said he had
Fr
There was a hole about one
seen floating over St. Louis.
inch in diameter in the middle of
the disc, he said, and in the open-
The flying saucers which have
ing were "gadgets and some
been reported skimming through
wires."
America's skies at speeds up to
The priest said he did not know
1200 miles have eluded the usual-
if his discovery were important
by keen eye of radar.
whether it might be an elab-
Capt. Tom Brown of the Army
rate practical joke. He said he
Air Forces public relations st 'f
had notified the FBI of his find.
H. K. Johnson of the Milwaukee
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Howard W. Blakeslee, Associ-
said the Army Airways Communi-
In the wake of these new eye-
ated Press science editor, said the
cations Service had reported late
witness accounts came a new series
whole business may be an optical
of comments, and explanations, but
illusion.
yesterday that so far its radar
most of them were tinged with a
"At any distance which is close
scopes throughout the country
slight tendency to laugh off the
to the limit of how far a person
have been unable to pick up any
strange objects in flight.
whole thing.
can see," he wrote, "all objects
And in the Pacific Northwest-
Dr. Winfred Overholser, nation-
appear round or nearly so. This
where most of the fly-happy plat-
ally known psychiatrist and super-
law of sight covers both small
intendent of St. Elizabeths Hos-
ters have been reported-the Army
has radar equipment which can
pital here, said it "has some of the
things seen nearby and large ones
pierce fog and darkness and pick
earmarks of being national hys-
at great distances.
teria."
up objects in the sky 200 miles
"The one outstanding fact about
"Everytime someone comes up
away.
virtually all the saucers is that
with a sea-serpent story," said Dr.
Even so, Brown acknowledged
Overholser, "others with vivid
they had no structure-they
that the Air Forces had decided
imaginations are sure they have
seemed merely round and flat.
"there's something to this" and
seen the same thing.
had been checking It for 10 days.
That description fits exactly with
"The critical faculty in man, the
"And we still haven't the slight-
last one he received, is still not
the tricks that eyes play. This
est idea what they could be," he
very well developed. Scratch the
trickiness varies with differences
added.
surface and you find the same mass
in weather and lighting."
And a new wrinkle-the report-
hysteria which predominated dur-
However, Nova Hart, St. Louis
ed landing of a fleet of eight skim-
ing the witchcraft scare. Some
mechanic who was trained during
ming platters-was reported from
persons are quite ready to see
service in the war to spot all types
Idaho in full view of 10 persons. A.
things and follow beliefs."
of aircraft, yesterday offered a
Dishman, Idaho housewife, said
Dr. Overholser said that when
minute description of one of the
she and others in her party had
he made his rounds of the mental
seen the saucers land on a moun-
flying patterns which he claimed he
patients yesterday at St. Eliza-
saw flying at an altitude of about
tainside near St. Maries, Idaho.
beths not a one commented on the
300 feet.
She said they came into view at
flying saucers story.
extreme speed, suddenly slowed,
Reporter Sees One
"I think they may be a little
and then "fluttered like leaves to
skeptical," he added.
He described it as circular with
the ground."
However, Dr. Overholser said he
a ribbed framework and silver
"The mysterious part was that
wasn't trying to dismiss the matter
gray in color. He said it appeared
we couldn't see them after they
as a joke "because there are so
to have a motor with a propeller
landed," she said. "We could see
many strange things going on to-
attached in the center and that it
them flutter down into the timber
day that one can't be sure."
kept turning like an airplane do-
yet we couldn't see that they did
Maj. Alexander P. de Seversky,
ing a slow roll.
anything to the trees."
noted aircraft designer, told The
Although many explanations
She said she hoped to hike into
have been offered, none has been
Post by telephone from New York
the timber tomorrow and search
convincing. A Los Angeles news
for the objects which she said were
that until he sees a flying saucer
paper quoted an unnamed nuclear
saucer-shaped but resembled wash-
he "wouldn't like to pass judg-
plysicist as saying the silvery disc
tubs more than disks and were
ment."
resulted from experiments in the
"about the size of a five-room
He agreed with Dr. Overholser
transmutation of atomic energy."
house."
This report was rapidly herded
that much if not all of the story
Locally, Hazen Kennedy of 2615
into the hoax column by David
4th st. ne. reported he had seen
may be because of hysteria.
Lilienthal, chairman of the Atomic
one passing over the Northeast
"After all," he said, "we are
Energy Commission, and several
section of the city at about 8:40
more or less an hysterical Nation."
prominent atomic scientists.
p. m
Major de Seversky said it was pos-
Starr Expects Word
This would be the first one re-
sible that the persons who claim
Louis E. Starr, national com-
ported over the District, although
mander of the Veterans of Foreign
others have been reported over
to have seen the aerial discs have
Wars, announced Saturday at Co-
nearby Maryland.
instead glimpsed the exhaust of
lumbus, Ohio, that he was expect-
Kennedy, who has 125 hours
jet-propelled planes.
ing "momentarily" information
flying time as a student pilot in
He conceded, too, that they
from Washington which would ex-
the Army Air Forces to his credit.
might be guided missiles let loose
plain the dashing discs. But the
said he believed the saucer he
as part of an experiment, but
message never arrived.
had seen was traveling at "well
added:
The Air Forces said that Gen.
over" 1000 miles an hour at an
"I don't think the Government
Carl Spaatz, Air Forces chief, was
altitude of between 1200 and 1500
would fire them so promiscuously.
in the Pacific Northwest where
feet.
They would test them in one spot,
most of the saucers have been re-
"The best way I can describe It,"
in an isolated area, like they did
ported, but added that his trip
said Kennedy, "was that it looked
the atomic bomb."
there was planned two months
like an orange lamp bulb without
Maj. Gen. Curtis E. LeMay, who
ago, long before the saucers scare.
the socket. It was going faster than
as Deputy Chief of Air Staff for
General Spaatz is expected back in
any jet plane I've ever seen."
Research and Development would
Washington late tomorrow.
In Hagerstown, Md., Mrs. Mad
know if the saucers involved ex-
Muroc Army Air Field in Call-
eyn Ganoe, 30, said she had seen
fornia had a P-80 jet fighter stand
periments with guided missiles,
five of the discs, racing in 2-1-2
ing by, and the National Guard in
commented:
formation at "terrific speed," from
Gregon had prepared six regular
"Whatever these people have
fighters to give chase should
Her backporch. "They sounded like
seen it hasn't been anything re-
saucers be reported nearby.
a faraway train," she said.
sulting from experiments by the
Army Air Forces. As for as I'm
concerned there's nothing to it
at all. The whole thing is un-
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ANONYMOUS COPE UNICATION
It is my opinion about
those flying discs reported
FLYIN DISCS,
seen over, Kentuky, new mexico,
California, Oregon, Washington
Idaho, Colorado, south Carolinic
and Eastern Canada that some Europe
- an Sountry is using them ly filling
explosence, and 32 after 8 a 1947 couple Thousand
them up RECORDED with germs of tighty
miles they digs their contents and
dissappear. 63JUL1 63 olog A serggest that you keep
lots
disenfed nt on ha l.
Ovelse something might happen
to us in the United States.
From
a foind
Mr. Tolson
Mr. E. A. Tamm
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
Mr. Clegg
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
Mr. Glavin
COMMUNICATIONS SECTION
Mr. Ladd
Mr. Nichols
JUL 8 1947
Mr. Resen
Mr. Tracy
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CONE IDENTIAL
BY SPECIAL messenger
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August 5, 1947
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Director of Intelligence
War Department General Staff
The Pentagon
Washington 25, D. C.
Attention: Colonel L. R. Forney, Chief, Security Group
From:
John Edgar Hoover - Director, Federal Bureau of Investigation
abject: FRED R. REIBOLD
There are attached hereto copies of a letter received from the
above-captioned individual, together with copies of a newspaper clipping
enclosure, concerning "flying discs."
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on GER July 1th SNIFF 1947, 10.30 P.M.
and I witnessed a flaming object
which dropped in street in from
of our house as 2315 Himbough are
Omaha nebr
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there were sex people who
can testify to the extreme hear
actually saw the offect and
as which is was ourming
We ded not claim is was
one of the so called "flying Jancer"
or any such phenomena bur we
ded want some pend of a reasonable
had dropped on a roof top it
explantion because if thes object
would have certainly ser fire
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was not tobacco ashes as
injerred by Dr. Kenny
If furned with such extreme
hear as to scouch payment on and
near payment where is let
Possibly thes could have
fire work or something sumber
been a late fourth g July
but as any rate we are calling
is to your attention as the
gave as Lung pipe ashes is full
answer the "learned" Dr Kenny
of ridicule an entirely unsatisfacty
yours sincerely
FRED R. REIBOLD
Fred Received
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2315 Himebargh are
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'Flying Saucer' Just
Someone's Pipe Dream'
The "flying saucer" that fell
but Monday evening was nothing
near 2319 Himebaugh Avenue
dream." "ashes from somebody's pipe
the Creighton College of Den- at
of the chemistry department
So says Dr. C.L. Kenny, head
tistry. He had two students
alyze the ashes. They found an-
dium, potassium, iron, alumi- so-
num, carbonate, sulphate and un-
burnt carbon, he said.
bacco," Dr. Kenny said.
would get from ordinary pipe to-
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ANONYMOUS KEEP ENVELOPT CO
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have also seen a flying saucer -
the evening of July 4- about 10 301pm - only
it was in the air at the same level as
two abvious partions of light in the
search light beams from the air field
Diear Lake St. clair. 9 was sitting on my
parch at the time. could a few trucks could
with proper equipment create the
same illusion. There were two clearly
outlined The beams sauces - one partly taded out to thit level
appeared which the
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July 11, 1947.
Dear Sir:
Have you seen one of the mysterious "Saucers"?
"Flying SAUCERS
What did it look like?
Do you think these strange, celestial manifesta-
tions are harbingers of a better day?
G.I.R.-5
Do you believe it means that a new and revolutionary
advance is coming?
Will it make your life brighter, happier, more
useful?
We believe one of these startling discs is on its
way to you. Then the secret will be out.
The Combined and Amalgamated Committee
of Sky-Scanners, Disc Decipherers and
New-Product Introducers.
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DATE: July 7, 1947
Mr. Tolson
FROM : H. B. FLETCHER
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Mr. E. A. Tamm
Mr. Clegg
Mr. Glavin
Mr. Ladd
Mr. Nichols
Mr. Rosen
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Mr. Tracy
Mr. Carson
Mr. Egan
Mr. Gurnea
Mr. Harbo
Mr. Hendon
At 10:45 a.m., July 7, 1947, I talked to SAC Johnson of the
Mr. Pennington
Mr. Quinn Tamm
Tele. Room
Milwaukee Office concerning the United Press item appearing in the
Mr. Nease
Miss Holmes
Washington Post for Monday, July 7, with reference to a flying disc
or flying saucer allegedly reported to the Milwaukee Office by
Reverend Joseph Brasky of St. Joseph's Church, Grafton, Wisconsin.
Miss Jame Gandy
SAC Johnson advised that the Associated Press and the Uniteed
SAUCERS
Press between the hours 1:00 and 6:00 a.m. today had made inquiry off
him as to whether anything had been reported to the Milwaukee Office:
He declined to comment. He stated as a matter of fact the priest had
not made any contact with him, and he learned from the Associated Press
that the priest was intoxicated and as far as the Associated Press was
concerned they were not releasing the story because all that was involved
was a circular saw. Mr. Johnson stated the Milwaukee Sentinel apparently
sent the report out and that they handled United Press service. He stated
a photograph of the priest was in this morning's paper holding a circular
saw which apparently covers the body of the priest from arm pit to arm pit.
Attached to the saw are several wires and two small tubes described as
Flying
about three inches long and one inch in diameter. The news item in the
Milwaukee Sentinel indicates it was believed some prankster had thrown it
Fly
into the yard, perhaps with a firecracker attached. Mr. Johnson stated the
Milwaukee Sentinel had stated the priest would make a report of this matter
today to the Milwaukee Office. I instructed SAC Johnson in the event the
priest made a report to furnish details of the report immediately, but in
view of the nature of the information in his possession, no inquiry should
be conducted at the present.
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and we can heare them
man and unmoral
the arbishop is bad
andwarking
the Cathedral Board,
by
4
5
In the alld arbi
shops residence are
some priests,
One is name markov
to sky, by is bad man
Hi was in care week
with arbishops care and
his mother his kild
is leave in the old re-
and from that time hi
with sidence, m and talking
in Halletteavile and
His brother is print
talking with us too
somkind like tresh
all the people luck
States, mol speak En- -
are no Cityzen Mnited
slovakia coming from Check
glish they say they are -
5
6
The Cathedrale
Board are men ar
freests germankind and
they
we got in Texas and
people
name the alamy place
that is saint to to -
tas agaist people, the mexican
Santa and
worlds
and I am ending with
Beemenber alams
and texas City
mrs, Anna Benys
me Joe Beny
MRS, ANNA-BENYS
MR. JOE * BENYS
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FIRST ITS FLYING DISKS NOW
Winner In
ITS "FIRE BALLS" PEOPLE SEE
say Contest
A lot of Texans are disk gust-
It was the first time the aerial
ed with the flying saucers, but
objects were reported in that 3-
others are just plain disk-turbed
rea. Residents of the Brushy
Flying balls of fire circled a
Creek community, 15 miles north-
he second time in the past
wide area around Palestine, and
east of Palestine, called Sheriff
of months a Sweet Home
some negroes, believing the end
Stanford about 8:30 last night,
has brought honor to his
of the world was near, began
saving 12 balls were flying in a
unity by winning literary
praying. A white man grabbed
straight line over the community.
holastic acelaim,
a rifle and shot at the myster-
Then, they reported, the balls
st to achieve himself was
ious objects.
formed a circle which began mov.
in Anthony Matusek, Yoa
Sheriff Paul Stanford of An-
ing toward Palestine.
High School graduate who
derson County described them as
By 9 p. m. hundreds of Pales-
a schelarship to A. and M.
orange basketballs of fire.
tine spectators reported seeing as
ge. Now word reaches us
many as three balls in the sky
Dennis Brenek, eleven-year-
at once, moving in a circle. Sher-
son of Mr. and Mrs. Ed.
ek of Sweet Home has been
Revealing Flying
iff Stanford discounted any sug-
gestion that the balls originated
ded a prize of a $25 Savings
from spotlight.
in the KTRH Farm Essay
Disk Data May
Bud Everett, druggist, chased
est.
them for a better view. He said
nnis won sixth place with his
they finally disappeared about 11
on the subject How Radio
Bring Prosecution
p. m.
Best Serve the Farm and
Mrs. Horace Valentine said she
Farm Home. In commenting
saw two perfectly round balls
this essay, George Roesner,
Anyone willfully communicat
that "nearly scared me to death
H Farm and Ranch Director
ing information bearing on the
when they appeared over her
d: "Your essay contained
defense or security of the nation
home. She said they seemed
excellant ideas which we
even in time of peace is
be playing with each other, the
to use in future farm pro-
subject to a fine of $10,000 and
way they jumped around.
imprisonment of 10 years, accord-
Her husband and Lee Chavers
nning contests is nothing
ing to Assistant United States
shot a box of 22 rifle bullets
to Dennis, who, in 1946, won
District Attorney Joseph W Cash.
without any effect on the objects.
istered pig with an essay
If the present mystery of fly-
Mrs. Valentine said neighbor-
ed in the Sears-Roebuck con-
ing disks are connected with Γa-
ing negro families thought the
Again, in February 1947, he
dar or guide missile experiments,
world was coming to an end,
ed a calf in the Hallettsville
the law might apply, he said,
and began praying as the balls
Club Show, and out of 12
The law applies whether the
of fire gamboled overhead.
awarded he took fifth
information is released accident-
Mrs. Lorens Shrader, Big
ally, 'through gross negligence,
Springs reported she saw a fiery
S. Brenek is Sweet Home's
or "with intent to injure the U-
red ball streaking overhead last
mistress.
nited States or aid some foreign
night.
nation, according to the act.
Mrs. Marian Reed. farm wife,
The Atomic Energy Act of 1946
found what she believed was part
Growing
provides even stricter penalties
of a flying disk. It landed in her
for revealing information, Mr.
back yard while she was hanging
Cash said. Public Law 585 of the
out the clothes yesterday after-
Seventy Congress provides
noon. She admitted she was
death or life imprisonment, after
frightened. She described it as a
mateurs' Display
due process of law, for disclosing
round piece of tinfoil eight inch-
atomic information with intent to
es wide, scorched or burned a-
injure the United States.
round the edges. Both sides were
For accidental disclosures a
shiny, but one side was marked
cellent Form
fine of up to $20,000 and im-
with black, stenciled lines a quar-
prisonment up to 20 years are
ter-inch apart. She said the tin-
provided, Mr. Cash pointed out.
foil dropped straight down from
the
sky.
akum softball teams showed
She lifted it with a stick, put
of good playing in the games
Gas Truck Hits
it in a tin can, and drove five
d at the Bulldog Stadium
miles to Gunter, 20 miles south-
week.
west of Sherman, Scores crowded
teams, organized by var-
Local Station
about to see it.
merchants and concerns in
At Melissa, Collin County, Mrs
are composed of members
Marie Killian and Mrs. Kay Craft
amateur standing who have
reported seeing a strange object
some previous experience with
A gasoline trailer truck of the
at 8:40 p. m. yesterday.
-lot or school ball playing.
Texas Consolidated Transport Co.
Charles Calhoun, and his fath-
over. some of the players
ran into a heavy pipe upright in
er. W. J. Calhoun, prominent
shown such expert ball
front of Rohan's Service Station
Grayson County farmers, said
lling and sportsmanship that
Monday, doing some damage to
they saw a disk yesterday near
hard to believe they are not
the station and more to the
Sherman.
truck.
essionals out of place The
The truck was coming from
hants who organized these
is are certainly deing their
town, along West Grand, and
Cuero Residents
turned into the station, As the
toward providing recreation
driver ent the cab back to swing
lities for the young people of
the trailer into position, the cab
community, and are to be
plimented on their fine work.
skidded into the steel pipe roof
See Flying Disc
r merchants or concerns who
support on the right of the truck,
bending it considerably. The
to organize a team may
Cuero has finally produced its
truck itself suffered a bent bum-
n all the particulars from
first flying disc,
ph McMaster at the Firestone
per and a smashed fender. A
It was reported by Mrs. F. W.
on Lott Street, or from
gasoline pump directly behind the
Haak of 410 Stockdale street, and
R. C. McClendon at Lack'
upright was not damaged by the
both she and her husband saw it.
ociate Store on West Grand.
crash.
However, Mrs. Haak's flying
boys or men wishing to play
disc is no particular mystery to
one of the teams may make
Lions To Make
her. She thinks she knows just
lication at the Firestone Store,
what caused it.
k's, Rohan's Service Station,
It was simply a reflection from
Hamilton's Jewelry Store, de-
an airplane, she said.
ding on the player's choice of
Farmer Award
Sitting on the porch with her
eam to play with. There is
husband about 4 p:m. Sunday,
plenty of room for good
Mrs. Haak said she heard a
ers, so anyone interested is
The Lions Club has announced
strange noise from the sky, and
ed to contact one of these
that at its regular noon meeting
looked up. Soon an airplane came
ns.
Tuesday, July 15th, it will pre-
into view, high in the clouds. It
sent to Lee Pargmann of Route
was very small, but plainly dis-
nly one game is definitely
5, the plaque for the Outstanding
cernable as a plane, she said. It
eduled for next week, and that
Farmer for the Middle Guadalupe
was coming from the east.
Monday night, when The Fire-
Basin Soil Conservation District.
Soon it turned north, and just
ne Store will tangle with the
zales Dr. Peppers Tuesday
The plaque IS given each year
after that a perfect disc was vis-
to the farmer from each conser-
ible some distance from where
nt Lack Associate Store will
vation district who has contribut-
the plane disappeared into the
y, but their opponent has not
named yet. Also, on Thurs-
ed most to the soil conservation
clouds.
night the Firestone team will
projects in the particular district.
The dise appeared bright and
in play a game, but no team
The award is sponsored by a num-
very silvery. It appeared to be
been stated to oppose them
ber of organizations, among them
smaller in size than an ordinary
On Friday night of this week,
the Lions Clubs of the various
steering wheel of a car, Mrs.
ame will by played, but the
towns. Since the Lions do play an
Haak reported. It seemed to be
as who will participate have
active part in sponsoring this a.
floating" across the heavens.
been listed yet.
ward. the local club is given the
She called her husband's at-
privilege of presenting the plaque
hese games will start about
tention to it, They both saw it.
to Mr. Pargmann.
After about five seconds the
each night. Everyone is in
Representatives of the Soil Con-
to come and cheer for his
dise was gone. The plane and the
servation Service will be present
No admission will be charg
sound disappeared.
to make short congratulatory and
Mrs. Haak is convinced the
explanatory speeches on the giv-
flying saucer was reflected from
ing of the annual award.
CURITY MAN
the airplane. This theory also has
been advanced by others.
BE HERE
purpose of receiving claims and
The flying disc mystery has the
discussing Old Age and Survivors
nation in a dither with reports
H. Davis, field representa-
Insurance with all who wish to
coming from all sections on the
San Antonio Social Secu-
contact him.
strange objects. Mrs. Haak ex-
ffice, will be in Yoakum at
Davis will not be able to fur-
planation is as reasonable as any
ty Hall at 8:30 a.m., Wed-
nish information concerning Old
yet put forth, and may be the
July 23, 1947, for the
Age Assistance pensions.
solution to the 'phenomenon,
PAGE TWO
Yoakum
YOAKUM
HOW CAN
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JOSEPH J. MALEC,
debate about Russia
Elditor-Manager
mas questions gave
Largest guaranteed circulation of
John L. Lewis calls the
ny publication in this section.
new labor law a "slave law"
"I seriously ques
Est.
1897
ested in world domina
Times Est
1892
The big trusts had undoubt-
ing to rehabilitate the
Consondated Oct. 25, 1948
edly the same idea about the
says Wallace, just W
Subscription Rate -$2.50
anti-trust laws when first
Published every Tuesday and Fri-
introduced. And what are the
What happened
ay morning 810-312 Lott St.,
Hungary, and what
Yoakum, Texas.
trusts compared to the harm
country, should be b
Covering Lavaca and DeWitt
the unions can do with their
what the Reds say,
Counties.
strikes?
"And, once agai
Entered as second-class matter at
If the new labor laws
ference between the
the Post Office, Yoakum, Texas,
under the Act of March 3, 1897
are "slave laws", SO are
of Hitler Germany,
WHEN ADVERTISING CIRCU-
in government struc
the anti-trust laws and any
LATION COUNTS TRY THE
other laws for the protec-
What Hitler sto
HERALD-TIMES.
tion of people against a-
simple, and far more
age: But when Russia
POLITICAL
buses by any group. So far
the same.
ANNOUNCEMENTS
the people were utterly
helpless against the labor
As to Russian tac
For Senator, 18th Dist.
they don't differ grea
power.
JOHN J. BELL
When independence is
this
and maintained in Gree
MORRIS ROBERTS
Such labor dictators as
ing to Wallace's reasor
Lewis, Petrillo, others, have
a far greater power to harm
But since the Red
WE SPECIALIZE
this country than the British
mocracy, it's very simp
to suit the purpose. E
in
king ever had. This is just
Moscow's fifth column,
Whiskies, Wines
as untolerable today as it
and Gins
was then.
Wallace talks of h
1
sistance and sincere pl
R. : DARLING
Last Sunday was, for the
people." How can Wall
PACKAGE STORE
British, a national Day of
Russia will take
Prayer The king with Prime
without changing in t]
Minister Attlee and other
And now can he talk
government leaders went to
when there cannot be
Chas. Micek
St. Paul's Cathedral to pray
less, voiceless, and cut
Your WATKINS
with the nation for help in
any friendship reach
City Dealer
these ominous times.
Wallace is not SO
Phone 599-W
II
politics evidently mea
Not SO long ago England
helping to divide Amer
went through the most
most.
desperate struggle in her
You will save
whole history. The peace
is not yet established and
even a greater menace
Mont. Man Wi
by building your
threatens the people of
England and elsewhere to
new home of firesafe
whom freedom means so
Truck Award
much. In a great danger
CONCRETE
brave people tura to God.
The oldest Chevrclet tr
ELL
operation in the United
A house of whatever archi-
Here, too many do not
entered in the recent COL
tectural style or floor plan fits
fully realize today's danger.
1918 1-ton model. The
your family requirements will
We suffered comparatively
truck was built on Oct
have longer life, lower main-
little and the Red threat
918 in Chevrolet's
tenance cost and greater fire-
seems to be distant. But
California plant.
safety if it has concrete walls
that does not minimize it.
The truck is owned and
end subflours and a firesafe
We need to face the menace
by Mr. Leslie A. Storey,
roof. Let us tell you how to
Montana: and the entry
with the same seriousness
mitted through Pioneer
get such a house built now
the British people with their
the Chevrolet dealer in ti
using our quality tested
leaders manifested last Sun-
which is located in our Sa
concrete block.
day. For, we cannot escape
City Zone.
F.& M. Concrete
it.
The winner's prize of
L
Advance-Design Chevrolet
Products
It cannot be said anymore
will be presented to Mr.
Yoakum, Texas
that the stories of the "fly-
by Chevrolet Motor Divisi
ing disks" is mere fiction.
More han 6000 Ch
trucks were entered from
One disk was found by
a
516 & ess? Mes Phone 831
tions of the nation, ind
Pelly man, near Houston. On
broad public interest. Ent
it was a warning about its
cluded more than 50-1919
DR. C R. TUBBS
military secret and that the
still in operation, many of
Army Air Force at Spokane,
were manufactured only
Veterinarian
Washington be notified at
months after the winning
The large number of
Large and Small Animals
once.
trucks entered in the seare
Office Phone 831
So the mysterious disks
emphasizes the quality and
bility of Chevrolet trucks
Residence Pnone 749-W
are not messengers from
Cuero
Texas
Mars or some other star.
Nor are they missiles
which Red Russia is al-
ready showering upon us.
She'll Never Forget
They are our own secrets
with which our armed
THIS GIFT
forces are experimenting.
What propels them? How
M
far can they fly? What is
their purpose? -That is a
mighty secret.
It is a French paper in
Just
Paris that claims that Ame-
rica has a far more destruc-
tive bomb than any ever in-
vented before. In one blow it
Men
could destroy all of Paris
or Moscow. This is also con-
firmed by Robert M. Hut-
chins of the University of
C
Chicago, familiar with what
See Us For
goes on here. We can thank
only the good Providence
QUALITY MERCHANDISE
that this immense power is in
EXPF WATCH
our hands.
REPAIRING
Writes John Fisher in his
YOU
book "Why They Behave
HAMILTON
Like Russians": "Officially
JEWELRY
religion is still regarded as
Yoakum
a deplorable superstition,
and church-goers can never
hope to gain admittance to
the Communist Party."
Horace Wimberly, Jr.
Yet what do you find in
Lava
Lawyer
this country? -Even cer-
Offices now in
tain church leaders have
The
only praise for the very
The
Yoakum National
rule which excludes a
Bank Building
Christian, but they con-
Phone 50
demn their fellow Chris-
tians, instead of the Reds.
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OCTOBER A 1946
SECTION TWO
er
Speaking at Castelgandolfo, his
as
summer home, Pius XII asserted
5
an
that the world today has men who
ate
on
ignore not only the Church, but the
ve
ed
"very rudiments of religion itself;
Co
in.
men who see no evil in evil deeds
Hu
rd
and lust and would spurn "the
lat
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primary norms of morals and jus-
an
as
tice;" "there are cynics who would
for
16.
deride holy things and weak men
]
at
who would permit these offenses
tio
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to pass.
ano
in
Despite this turmoil, His Holi-
voi
an
ness said, "there are great rays
ma
the
of hope and fields white with har-
dis]
in
vest for those who labor to bring
ent
the
Christ to the world." He stressed
the
pe
the oath of the Jesuits, which en-
ish
tor
ables them to bring "a spirit pre-
slav
In-
pared and prompt to obey in all
res
re-
things the true Spouse of Christ
WORLD UNREST
dra
our holy Mother Church."
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In another audience, held for the
ma
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Ital
and the Dominicans who elected
Mr. Tolson
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Mr. Gurnea
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toward south and disappear
she said. It was flying high and
appeared illuminated, according to
Mrs. Hoffman.
Disk Found Is
"It looked like a small meat plat-
ter," Mrs. Hoffman asserted.
Glenn Rowden of Detroit claimed
he saw a "saucer," about 50 inches
Priest Hears a 'Bang,'
Tries to Call FBI Man
in diameter, over Billy Mitchell field
Father Brasky said he did not
at 10:05 p.m. when he alighted from
Discovers a Circular
bother to show the disk to any of his
an airplane. He said it was in sight
for 90 seconds.
parishioners Sunday. He tried to
Blade With Teeth;
telephone an FBI agent whom he
William Humphrey, who lives
knows, but was unable to reach him
with his wife in a quonset hut at
Other Disks 'Seen'
Sunday, he added. Asked whether
3148 S. 20th st., telephoned police
it could have been the work of a
at 9 p.m. Sunday that he and Mrs.
Picture on Picture Page
practical joker, Father Brasky re-
Humphrey had seen a slightly illu-
plied: "Could be. I don't know."
minated disk which appeared to fall
The "what is it?" which Father
The disk, apparently of steel, had
to earth near Pulaski high school.
Joseph Brasky said he found early
a one and three-eighth inch hole in
Mrs. Humphrey said Monday that
her husband tried unsuccessfully to
Sunday on the lawn of St. Joseph's
the center. Through it ran a few
Catholic church in Grafton may be
wires. To each end of the cluster
photograph the disk.
of wires was attached what looked
just another gadget to add to Fa-
Changed Colors, He Says
like a small condenser about three
ther Brasky's already sizable col-
inches long. The condenserlike ob-
Erwin Rottman, 1328 N. 19th st.,
lection.
jects were wrapped in black tape
claimed he saw three of them flying
Those who saw it Sunday said
which still was sticky. The disk was
through the air in a northwesterly
"what is it?" was a circular saw
greasy and somewhat dirty.
direction at 6 p.m. Sunday. They
Stamped on it was: "Approved,
turned from orange to gold to silver
blade with a few wires attached.
Dunlap."
before disappearing, he said.
Father Brasky, who said he knew of
Father Brasky declined to part
Reports came also from Janes-
no sawmills in the area, would not
with the disk. He showed a number
ville, where Mr. and Mrs. Alva Sie-
claim it was a "flying saucer" when
of items in his trinket collection.
vert and Mr. and Mrs. Howard Roth
he called newspapermen to his
All of them had something to do
reported seeing a flying disk about
home.
with fishing, Father Brasky's favor-
11:35 p.m. Saturday. The Roths
"It may or may not be one of those
ite sport. They included his "bass
were leaving the Sievert home when
flying disks that have been report-
bottles," beer bottles with the head
Sievert saw it, according to Roth.
ed all over the country," he said.
of a fish and a fish pole from
It appeared to be several thousand
"Tet's just call it a 'what is it?' "
Manila which folds up into a cane.
feet up and about 10 miles away,
Meanwhile, in Milwaukee and
When opened, it extends to 12 feet.
Roth said. He described it as vague-
other points in Wisconsin, several
"I use it in reaching folks who
ly resembling the moon and as hav-
persons reported seeing the "flying
can't be touched with a 10 foot pole."
regular motion in a counter-
saucers." Father Brasky's disk,
Father Brasky quipped.
clockwise, elongated orbit. It ap-
however, was the only case here in
peared to Roth to be moving faster
which the "landing" of a "saucer"
Others Report "Saucers"
than an airplane. He said it was
was reported.
Father Brasky also passed out
yellow on its face, but when it
Hears "Bang," Finds Disk
copies of his recent publication,
turned it looked silver.
"Fish Tales."
Roth said that the four of them
Father Brasky gave the follow-
"I'm going to revise this thing,"
viewed the disk for 10 minutes.
ing account of how he found the ob-
he explained. "I've got some new
Stopped in Sky, Claim
ject. a steel plate 19 inches in di-
and better tales to put in it."
ameter, about an eighth of an inch
There were other reports around
"It fluttered around, faded out
thick and with saw teeth.
Milwaukee and Wisconsin of "fly-
and came back again, and once it
"I usually get up about 5 a.m. on
ing saucers." Mrs. Anthony Hoff-
just stopped and hung there for
Sundays. I was at the front door
about two minutes," Roth said. "The
man, 3410 W. Layton av., said she
of my house, about to take my dog
last time we saw it, it had a very
and her husband saw one at 8:25
out for a walk, when I heard a
p.m. Sunday flying toward Billy
Turn to page 3, col. 5
'bang!' like a big firecracker. I
Mitchell field from the northwest.
stepped outside and found this disk
When it neared the field, it veered
on the church lawn.
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"Although the grass was still wet
from the night rain, the disk was
too hot to pick up. I noticed the
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glass ball had been knocked off one
of the lightning rods on the church,
F
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so suppose it struck that in land-
ing."
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'Saucer' Tales
Laws of Eyesight Clarify.
Buzz in State
Reports of Flying Saucers
By HOWARD W. BLAKESLEE
Many descriptions of move-
Disk Found by a Priest
Associated Press Science Editor
ments of the flying saucers fit
New York, N. Y.- The flying
with the common maneuvers of
Is Circular Saw; Others
saucers may be explained by cer-
tain laws of eyesight.
airplanes, singly or in groups.
Seen by Milwaukeeans
All objects appear round or
Some of the maneuvering report-
nearly so at any distance close to
ed, which took saucers out of sight
From page 1, column 3
the limit of how far a person can
and back into sight again, resem-
see.
bles what can be seen while
noticeable tail. When it disap-
If the objects are seen by re-
watching distant airplanes.
peared entirely, it just popped out."
flected light, as in most cases re-
Whether planes are guided, pi-
ported, they are almost certain to
Janesville police reported a tele-
lotless or jet, they all would look
be round, and if the reflections
the same at great distances.
phone call from a Dick Thompson,
are sunlight then the sizes report-
who said he saw flying disks about
ed are those which would be ex-
12:15 a.m. Sunday.
pected from distant light reflec-
Mirages, Traveler Says
tions.
At Oshkosh, Mrs. L. A. Davis re-
Philadelphia, Pa. -(AP)- Dr. Aurel
Descriptions of virtually all the
Aczel, editor of a Hungarian lan-
ported that she and her husband had
saucers as round and flat fit ex-
guage newspaper, expressed belief
sighted one of the mysterious disks
actly with the tricks that eyes
that the flying saucers were mi-
whizzing over the city at 6:45 p.m.
play. This trickiness varies with
rages-possibly circularly distort-
Sunday.
differences in weather and light-
ed reflections of real airplanes
ing.
many miles away. A world-wide
She said they were driving on a
This writer has seen flying sauc-
traveler, Dr. Aczel said:
town road six miles west of Osh-
ers over Long Island sound, not
"Years ago I have seen similar
kosh, headed east toward the city,
only this year but in previous
things on the Egyptian desert and
when they first sighted the object
years. They were round, bright
on the Buszta (Hungarian plain).
"flying very fast and very high."
and moving fast. But they were
At sea I have also seen mirages of
At first, she said, it looked like an
no mystery because they were
ships known to be a great distance
airplane and then loomed larger and
light reflected from the bodies of
away.
larger until it "appeared as big as
airplanes that soon identified
"In July and August, and some-
the sun."
themselves by changing course
times even in June, atmospheric
Stops Car, Disk Vanishes
and coming near enough to be
conditions are especially adapta-
Her husband stopped the car so
seen distinctly.
ble to the creation of mirages."
that they could get a better look at
the disk, which appeared round and
silvery, but by the time they got out
of the car the object had dis-
appeared, she said.
At Green Bay, Eugene Le Plant
reported that he and his 12 year old
son, Duane, had seen a rapidly mov-
ing silver ball or disk about 6:30
p.m. Wednesday while working in
his garden on the western edge of
the city. Le Plant said he saw the
object silhouetted against a dark
cloud to the north and that he and
his son watched it for three or four
minutes while it moved away to the
northwest Le Plant said he could
not estimate the altitude or dis
tance, but that it "definitely was not
an airplane."
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Sharp-Eyed Sight Disks, but Only a Saw Blade Is Found
Who, what, where, why are flying disks? The year's biggest mystery produced
these Sunday photos while reports came from everywhere and everyone that
the saucers were everywhere. Top left, a movie,camera is fitted to a P-51 fighter
plane at Portland, Ore., as Oregon national guard planes are made ready to chase
the disks. Lower, Mrs. Walter Johnson (right) of Spokane, Wash., and her chil-
dren pose and tell how they saw the saucers land on a mountainside in Idaho and
disappear. Right, is Father Joseph Brasky of St. Joseph's Catholic church at
Grafton, Wis., with the disk he reported struck his church early Sunday. It
turned out that the disk was a prankster made projectile, featuring a Dunlop cir-
cular saw blade. Note that something apparently took a glass ball off one of the
lightning rods. A whole lot of Milwaukeeans reported that they saw the saucers
traveling past Sunday night.
-AP Wirephotos and Journal Staff
SEEN IN 36 STATES
First, published reports of the
Seen in 36 States:
First sighted June 25 and
phonomeno occurred June 25.
Jet Fighters
greeted generally with scornful
Kenneth Arnold, Boise, Ida.,
laughs, the objects have been re-
businessman pilot, told of seeing
ported every day since by observ-
nine of the discs flying in forma-
Alerted
ers in 36 states. Most of the ob-
tion at 1,200 miles an hour over
jects were reported seen July 4.
the Cascade Mountains in Wash-
SAN FRANCISCO, July 6-(P)
A few were reported yesterday.
ington.
Such competent observers as
SEEN BY 200
- Military aircraft hunted the
airline pilots said they had seen
skies over Pacific Coast states
Arnold's account was taken
the totally unexplained discs or
lightly. Various explanations
today for sight of the mysterious
saucers, larger than aircraft and
were offered-"reflections," "per-
"lying saucers" that for 12 days
sistent vision," "snow blindness."
have puzzled the entire country.
flying in "loose formation" at
Soon afterward other individ-
Early reports of results were
high speed.
uals-in New Mexico, Missouri,
negative.
David Lilienthal, chairman of
California and other states-re-
the Atomic Energy Commission,
ported they also had seen the
Five P-51s of the Oregon Na-
tional Guard cruised over the
said they had nothing to do with
flying objects.
Then on Independence Day 200
Cascade Mountains of Washing-
atomic experiments, and Army
persons in one group and 60 in
ton-the area where the strange
and Navy officials also entered
another saw them in Idaho. Hun-
objects first were reported sight-
positive disclaimers.
dreds of others in Oregon, Wash-
ed. A sixth circled over Portland,
Newspaper stories quoting an
ington and other western states
in constant radio contact with the
reported seeing them.
unidentified California Institute
other five. All carried photo-
July 4 also brought first re-
of Technology scientist as saying
graphic equipment.
ports of the flying discs from
the phenomena might have some-
east of the Mississippi. Since
Col. G. R. Dodson, command-
thing to do with experiments in
then they have been reported seen
ing, described their flight as a
In widely separated sections of
"routine patrol," but said they
"transmutation of atomic energy"
the country-in 33 states in all.
had been instructed to watch for
aused a brief sensation late yes-
the flying discs.
terday. The institute quickly de-
'Must Be Insane'
At Manhattan Beach, Calif., A.
nied the report.
LONDON, July 6-(P)-Don't
W McKelvey took a Mustang
fighter plane up above Van Nuys
Reports generally agreed that
mention those flying saucers on
this side of the Atlantic unless
For two hours he cruised at 35,
the flying objects were round or
you're prepared for an argument
006 feet, but "didn't see a thing.'
oval. Estimates of their speed
about your sanity.
Gen. Carl Spaatz, commandant
ranged from about 300 to 1,200
Maybe they have been seen by
of the Army Air Forces, was on a
miles an hour. They were de-
sober citizens over a vast area
Pacific Northwest fishing trip.
scribed as flying with an undu-
of the United States, but Europe
He denied knowing anything
lating motion at heights of 10,000
won't believe in them until some-
about the flying discs - or of
feet and less. Some described
body lassoes one and has it photo-
plans to use AAF planes to look
them as glowing, or luminous.
graphed by Frank Sinatra, the
for them.
British ambassador and five
'PROPELLER IN CENTER'
Supreme Court justices.
JET FIGHTER SET
Nova Hart, St. Louis mechanic
"America's reply to the Loch
"I've been out of touch with
who was trained during service
Ness monster," chortled today's
things for four or five days,"
in the war to spot all types of
Sunday dispatch, referring to
he said.
aircraft, said he saw one of the
Britain's hoariest tall story-the
Louis E. Starr, national com-
strang objects near Pattonville
serpent that is "seen" romping n
mander-in-chief of the Veterans
resterday. It was flying at 300
Scotland's Loch Ness every time
of Foreign Wars, yesterday in Co-
feet, he said.
the tourist trade needs a shot An
lumbus, O., said he understood
He described it as circular, with
the arm.
Spaatz had a "group out right
a ribbed framework and silver
now" looking for discs.
gray in color. Hart said it ap-
At Muroc Army Air Field in
peared to have a motor with a
California a P-80 jet fighter stood
propeller attached in the center
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ready to take off the moment any
and it kept turning like an air-
flying saucers are sighted in that
plane doing a slow roll.
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area.
A cautious attitude marked
both official and scientific coin-
ments, but Capt. Tom Brown of
the Air Forces Public Relations
MILWAUKEE SENTINEL
staff in Washington acknowl-
MILWAUKEE, WISCONSIN
edged the Air Forces had decided
"there's something to this" and
had been checking up on it for
10 days.
OCT
1947
Planes Chasing Disks
Find Only Empty Sky
Jokesters Add
radio announcement that disks
were flying over Lewiston, Idaho,
what a crop dusting plane was do-
Sunday sent hundreds into their
ing in the air at dawn On Sunday.
Some Comedy
yards for a look. Weatherman Louis
It was the first time any noise had
Krezak said the objects were mov-
been attributed to flying saucers.
ing eastward with the prevailing
J. U. Watts, jr., Darlington (S. C.)
to Air Mystery
wind and probably were weed seeds.
attorney, said he saw an army pur-
Three air transport pilots agreed.
suit plane chasing a V-formation of
flying saucers at 250 miles an hour
Searchlights on Clouds
3,000 feet high. However, no pilot
East St. Louis Objects
A Birmingham radio station was
reported such a chase.
deluged with more than 400 calls in
Saw One With Legs
Prove to Be Washers;
one hour by persons who said they
Meantime, authorities were
Chicago Woman Spots
saw fluorescent balls circling over
plagued with reports that bordered
the city and clearly outlined against
on the fantastic. An excited Chi-
near-by mountains. A carnival at
cago woman reported that she had
One With Legs
Alabaster, Ala., was playing search-
seen a flying saucer with legs. "I
lights on cloud wisps.
was standing on my porch and I
By the United Press
An argument raged at Lodi, Calif.,
th ught for sure it was coming right
Army pilots were ready Monday
over the cause of a spectacular glow
dip vn and slap me in the face," she
for another air search for the mys-
in the sky and a roar shortly before
said.
terious "flying saucers" now report-
electrical power went off. Mrs. W.
leorge Kuger of Denver said he
ed seen in 39 states and parts of
C. Smith said she heard a noise "like
sa a flying disk with an American
Canada as practical jokesters added
flag on it.
to the confusion.
Francis Howell, Tempe, Ariz.,
Equipped with telescopic cam-
Give 'Em Room
claimed he saw a saucer two feet
eras, 11 army planes searched the
in diameter disappear behind a row
Pacific northwest Sunday without
Newport News, Va.-Peninsula
of trees near his home. When he
finding any trace of the flying disks
airport here is taking no chances
rushed to inspect it, he said, the flat,
which had been reported over scores
with flying saucers. Pilots report-
thin, aluminumlike disk took off at
of communities the preceding two
ing Monday to take out planes
a "high rate of speed" toward
days. At Sioux Falls, S. D., a na-
found this notice on the bulletin
Phoenix, nine miles away.
tional guard plane already in the air
board: "Two thousand feet ver-
Mrs. Walter Johnson returned to
was ordered to investigate a silvery
tical and horizontal clearance re-
Spokane, Wash., after a vacation
disk with a short tail which Gregory
quired between aircraft operat-
near St. Maries, Idaho, and after
Zimmer said he saw shoot across
ing from this field and any fly-
reading newspaper reports of the
the heavens. The pilot found noth-
ing saucers."
flying saucers said she and several
ing but empty sky.
others had seen speeding shiny ob-
The army "camera patrol" over
jects "as big as a four or five room
the Cascade mountains Sunday in-
a four motored bomber" just before
house" disappear into the forest
cluded eight P-51 pursuit ships and
the lights went off at dawn. Erving
covered mountains.
three A-26 bombers.
Newcomb of the Pacific Gas & Elec-
The first of the saucers over New
York State was reported by Mrs.
Illusions Or Jokes
tric Co. offered the explanation that
a low flying crop dusting plane
Kenneth Wohley of Rochester, N.
There was growing belief that the
probably had struck a power line
Y who said she and her husband
concentrated aerial search would
and burned out a transformer
saw an object "about the size of an
show the saucers to be optical illu-
However, no planes were reported
ordinary saucer" flying above her
sions or the work of practical joke-
damaged and no one could explain
back yard at 8:30 p.m. Sunday.
sters magnified by aroused imagi-
nations.
A number of "disks" whirled over
ENCLOSURE
rooftops in East St. Louis, Ill., Sun-
day. J.T. Hartley, a locomotive en-
gineer, gathered some of them up
MILWAUKEE, WISCONSIN RECORDED
MILWAUKEE JOURNA
and found they were made of
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pressed white paper, 11 inches in
7/7/47
diameter and with a two inch hole
in the center. Railroad workers
32
JUL
16
said they looked like locomotive
packing washers.
New Jersey residents said they
"thought" they saw flying disks
over Palisades Park and near-by
Bergenfield Sunday night.
Skeptical scientists recalled the
mysterious "rockets" seen over Swe-
den last year. Eighty per cent of
the "ghost rockets" proved to be
meteors, and Swedish officials said
the others could be discounted as
pure imagination.
Scientists asserted that the ob-
jects in order to be seen clearly at
10,000 feet-the level at which most
of the saucers have been reported-
would have to be 20 feet in diameter,
would require a large mass of metal,
would be more conspicuous at night
and would be seen by a far greater
number of persons.
Dr. J. S. Nassau, director of the
Warner & Swasey observajory at
the Case Institute of Technology at
Cleveland, said he was inclined to
"think the reports are fancies."
Capt. Tom Brown, army air force
spokesman at Washington, said the
army was trying to run the reports
to earth.
"We're not dismissing the possi-
bility that there's something to it,"
he said, "and we're not dismissing
the possibility that it's all a hoax."
U.S. Planes Hunting Discs;
Russ Tells of 'Atom Saucers'
FBI Probes Story
of Soviet Ship
The Russian first asked where
he could sell 18 polar bear pelts
Officer
which he received "for very dan-
gerous work."
He said he had been assigned
to go over the route of the radio-
LOS ANGELES, July (Spe-
active cloud near Lake Bakal
cial)-Federal agents today in-
(or Baykal) and pick up dead
vestigated a letter to the Exami-
animals.
ner describing Russian supersonic
ALL LIFE DESTROYED
atom-powered planes resembling
"They loaded a few small
the "flying saucers."
ships with all kinds of animals
A top flight atomic scientist to
and directed the cloud over
whom the Examiner referred the
them," the writer said.
letter said it was "not all non-
"During this experiment, a
sense," and suggested the matter
violent storm blew the cloud
be turned over to the FBI.
far north into the tundra, but
The letter writer said he got
before it dissipated it destroyed
the information from an officer
all life on its way.
aboard a Russian tanker recently
"The cloud may be controlled
in Los Angeles harbor.
from land, from a plane or
from a robot-piloted 'leader.'
KILLED EVEN WORMS
As I understand it, the control
The Russian, he said, also de-
is based on electro-magnetic
scribed experiments with con-
waves and the cloud has two
components: The carrier and
trolled radioactive clouds in the
the killer."
Arctic, where birds, animals and
even worms were killed.
The planes, as described by the
Russian to the writer, are only
18 inches thick, with a kidney-
shaped outline and no propellors.
The pilot lies on his stomach
ENCLOSURE
and is artificially cooled against
the heat developed by air fric-
tion.
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"The outer surface is highly
olished," the Russian said.
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Both upper and lower surfaces
are convex, like a giant lens.
The lifting force is an entirely
different principle found about
10 years ago among unpublished
papers of a Russian chemist.
"Energy is required only for
climbing, but no energy is need-
ed for support when the air-
milwonkee Sentined
plane goes along the earth's
gravitational contour lines."
The writer of the strange let-
milwankee, Wis
er said he met the Russian of-
icer in Wilmington and, because
e wanted to hear about Russia,
nvited him to dinner.
60 OCT 1947
July 13 7, 1947
Quirks of Eyesight May
Explain Disc Mystery
By HOWARD BLAKESLEE
AP Science Editor
NEW YORK, July 6-(P)-Certain laws of human eye-
sight will explain much of what has been described about
the flying saucers reported from nearly all parts of the
United States.
At any distance which is close
photograph of the oval object
to the limit of how far a person
taken by Yeoman Frank Ryman
can see, all objects appear round
north of Seattle, Wash. The Long
or nearly so. This law of sight
Island oval came closer and
covers both small things seen
turned into an airplane.
nearby and large ones at great
Planes at great distances tend
distances.
to look round when light is re-
Regardless of shape, the ob-
flected from their sides. Many
ject near the limit of sight looks
descriptions of movements of the
round. If the thing is silhouetted
flying saucers fit with the com-
against a bright sky, as some of
mon maneuvers of airplanes,
the flying saucers have been re-
singly or in groups.
ported, then it is more likely to
They fit also with what birds
revial its true shape.
look like, flying at a considerable
distance. However the bird Illu-
HAVE 'NO STRUCTURE'
sion is not very common. Some
(f the thing is seen by reflected
of the maneuvering reported,
light, as in most cases reported,
which took saucers out of sight
it is almost certain to be round,
and back into sight again re-
and if the reflections are sunlight,
sembles what can be seen while
then the sizes reported are those
watching distance airplanes.
which would be expected from
distant light reflections.
SPEED MYSTERY
The one outstanding fact about
There is no explanation for re-
virtually all the saucers is that
ported speeds of 1,000 or more
they had no structure - they
miles an hour. Meteors, although
seemed merely round and flat.
they go much faster than that,
That description fits exactly with
do not explain it because the
the tricks that eyes play. This
saucers mostly appear in daytime
trickiness varies with differences
and there are not enough day-
in weather and lighting.
light meteors.
This writer has seen flying
Ice crystals forming little round
saucers over Long Island Sound
clouds have been suggested. But
near his home, not only this year
these fail to fit in most cases be-
but in previous years. They were
cause the ice crystals form at
round, bright and moving fast.
altitudes which are higher than
most of the saucers reported.
NOT A MYSTERY
Nothing published in science or
But they were no mystery be-
atomic studies gives the slightest
cause they were light reflected
clue to flying saucers unless the
from the bodies of airplanes that
objects are aircraft.
soon identified themselves by
One scientist today said that at
changing course and coming near
least a lot of saucers are ex-
enough to be seen distinctly.
plained by the force of suggestion
Last week this writer also saw
which causes a person to say to
one oval flying form which for
himself:
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a moment looked exactly like the
"Oh, gee, I see it too."
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'Saucers' Fly Here;
Other passengers with him also
saw it, he said. He gave the name
of J. W. Rowden of Detroit. De-
spite its bobbing, the saucer was
Grafton Disc Joke
going at great speed, and was out
of sight in a few seconds, he
said. Rowden is stopping at the
Plaza Hotel.
DISCS HAD TAILS
Erwin Rottman, 1328 N. 19th
St., said he saw three of them,
with tails, flying northwest to
southeast, as he stood at N. 18th
and W. Vliet Sts. They turned
from gold to another color and
then to silver, he said.
Frank Phifer, stopping at the
Maryland Hotel, said he saw
three balls of fire shoot cross
Lake Michigan at 8:20 last ight,
about
mile from shore, and
"going at terrific speed."
What he described as an illu-
minated saucer was seen last
night by William Humphrey, 3148
S. 20th St., he said. It was zig-
zagging directly over the Heil
Co. plant, said Humphrey, and
seemed to land in a wooded area
nearby.
REPORTED IN JANESVILLE
Four Janesville residents re-
ported they had seen a flying disc
Saturday night. They are Mr.
What was reported as a "flying disc" which struck a church in
and Mrs. Al Sievert and Mr. and
Grafton early yesterday turned out to be a circular saw with
Mrs. Howard Roth.
two small tubes and several wires attached to it. Father Joseph
Brasky, pastor of St. Joseph's Church, Grafton, holds the "disc"
They saw the disc flying in a
northwesterly direction f ro m
nd points to the lightning rod on the church (arrow), which
Janesville at a "terrific speed."
he said was struck by the disc. Sentinel Photo by Ernest Anheuser.
They viewed it for 20 minutes. It
One theory was that pranksters
was yellow-golden, and seemed to
The mystery of the "flying
or belated Fourth of July cele-
turn at times to a silvery color,
discs," strange luminous objects
brants had attached explosives to
they stated. An oval flight pattern
seen speeding across the sky in
was followed. Then, they said,
the saw, and sent it skimming
tails appeared on the disc and
many states, turned to Wiscon-
through the air.
sin yesterday when several per-
Father Brasky said he heard a
shortly afterwards it disappeared.
swishing noise and a sizzling at
John Bosch, 4377 S. Adams St.,
sons reported them at Milwaukee
5 a. m., followed a second later
Milwaukee, a machinist, insisted
and Janesville.
with a thud and an explosion.
he saw two flashing saucer-
Mystery was added to mystery
An excited resident telephoned
shaped objects pass over Billy
when Father Joseph Brasky, pas-
to Billy Mitchell Field, and said
Mitchell Field shortly after mid-
tor of St. Joseph's Church at
he saw 15 flying saucers, in U
night yesterday. They were close
Grafton, Wis., reported a missile
formation, heading north over
enough so he could definitely state
hurtled through the air early yes-
Granville, at 10:05 p. m. He hung
they were not shooting stars, nor
terday, knocked the ball off the
up before his name could be pro-
airplanes, he said. Bosch's home
church lightning rod, and landed
cured.
is near the airport.
on the front lawn.
A passenger aboard a New
ENCLOSURE
WIRES AND TUBES
York-Detroit-Milwaukee plane,
which landed at Billy Mitchell
It, was a large circular saw-
Field at 10:05 p. m., told employes
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about 16 inches in diameter-and
in the office of Northwest Air-
still hot when Father Brasky
lines, Inc., he saw a flying saucer
picked it from the lawn.
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Office Memorandum
UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO
: DIRECTOR, FBI
DATE: July 8, 1947
FROM SAC, MILWAUKEE
SUBJECT: FLYING DISCS OR SAUCERS
ATTENTION: MR. H/JFLETCHER
MISCELLANEOUS
TELEPHONE CALL FROM MR. FLETCHER
AT THE BUREAU AT 8:30 AM, 7/7/47
Capart
Attached are newspaper clippings from the Milwaukee
Sentinel and Milwaukee Journal of July 7, 1947.
For the Bureau's information, United Press and Associated
Press telephoned me at my residence about three or four times between
1:00 A.M. and 2:30 A.M., July 7, 1947. The United Press representative
informed me that Father JOSEPH BRASKY had stated on interview by a
Milwaukee Sentinel reporter, one BILL WEEKS, (Phonetic) that he,
Father BRASKY, was going to call the FBI concerning the contraption,
which apparently was identical with one of the flying discs recently
publicized throughout the country. The United Press representative
desired to know if we had any statement to make on the matter. I
informed him that I had no official comment, other than "No Comment."
Since I have contacted the United Press representative on
various occasions, I asked him what the actual details were, and he
stated he did not know except that the interview of the priest reflected
that a circular saw had been found with some devices attached to it.
The Associated Press called me shortly after the United
Press representative did, and on being advised that I had no comment
to make concerning the story, I asked the Associated Press representa-
tive what the actual facts were, and he informed me that as far as the
Associated Press was concerned, the facts were that a circular saw had
been found and a story had been obtained from a priest who had been
drinking quite heavily. The Associated Press representative informed
me that apparently the United Press desired to get a statement from me
denying or affirming that the FBI was investigating the matter. I
informed the Associated Press representative that apparently someone
was suffering under a misinterpretation of any comment I had made, and
possibly some reporter was in an embarrassing position if a story had
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but
RECORDED
I then telephoned the United Press representative, who
apparently in the meantime had been called by the Associated Press
in an effort to straighten out the United Press. No reference was
made to the FBI in the Milwaukee Sentinel article appearing July 7,
1947, but the Milwaukee Journal article, which is attached, referred
to an alleged statement by Father BRASKY that he attempted to get in
touch with an FBI Agent whom he knows. Father BRASKY has never con-
tacted the Milwaukee FBI Office or any Agent concerning his find.
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Father BRASKY with the saw indicates no basis for any! investi gati by
any authority.
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UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO
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DATE: July 11, 1947
II
Mr. Tolson
FROM : K.C.Howe
Mr. E. A. Tamm
Mr. Clegg
Mr. Glavin
Mr. Ladd
Mr. Nichols
SUBJECT: Flying Disc
Mr. Rosen
Mr. Tracy
Mr. Carson
Mr. Egan
At 10:45 PM on the evening of July 11, 1947, Clerk Piercy of the
Mr. Gurnea
Mr. Harbo
Washington Field Office called and stated that at the instruction Mr.
Mr. Mohr
Mr. Pennington
Mr. Quinn Tamm
Hennrich he wanted to pass on to the Bureau information he had just re-
Tele. Room
Mr. Nease
ceived from one Alvin B. Parker, 200 6th Street, Laurel, Maryland, to the
Miss Holmes
Miss Gandy
effect that a "flying disc" had just landed in Parker's yard "and the
machinery is still buzzing." Piercy stated Parker was apparently so excited he had
a difficult time even getting his name out, and no further detail could be obtained
from him.
At 10:50 PM I passed the above information on to Captain West, duty officer
at G-2 who indicated he had also received the same data from another source, and
would pass our information along to appropriate army quarters.
Sid Roberts of the AP called at about 10:55 PM and asked whether the
Bureau had received any report on a "flying disc" in Laurel Maryland. After
checking with Mr. Nichols I told him we had received such a report and had passed
it on to army authorities.
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DATE:
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me
Mr. Tolson
Mr. E. A. Tamm
FROM : D. M. LADD
Mr. Clegg
of
Mr. Glavin
Mr. Ladd
Mr. Nichols
Mr. Rosen
SUBJECT:
Mr. Tracy
Mr. Carson
Mr. Egan
Mr. Gurnea
SAC Johnson of the Milwaukee Office called to advise he had
Mr. Harbo
Mr. Hendon
just received a telephone call from Colonel Harry Schafer, Reserve
Mr. Pennington
Mr. Quinn Tamm
Tele. Room
Officer with the Civilian Air Patrol, Black River Falls, Wisconsin.
Mr. Nease
Miss Holmes
Colonel Schafer reported that at 3:30 p.m., July 10, one Sig Hanson,
Miss Gandy
City Engineer at Black River Falls, Wisconsin, had found a large
17" disc which appeared to have been possibly made out of cardboard
painted with silver airplane dope. In the center was a tube and a
small motor with a propellor attached to the side. Colonel Schafer
expressed the opinion that this disc would not be able to fly by
itself. He advised it would be taken to the Air Corps Headquarters.
Colonel Schafer advised, however, that Hanson did not want to release
the disc without FBI approval.
I instructed Mr. Johnson to advise the Air Corps officer
to get in touch with Colonel Schafer and tell him he saw no reason for
the Bureau to attempt to secure the release of the material since it
was not in our custody and we had no control. He stated the press was
also calling concerning this matter. I instructed him to make no
G.I.R.A
comment to the press.
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STANDARD FORM NO. 64
Office Memorandum
UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
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TO
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DATE: July 12, 1947
Mr. Tolson
FROM : F. P. GRIFFEE
yes
Mr. E. A. Tamm
Mr. Clegg
Mr. Glavin
Mr. Ladd
Mr. Nichols
M
SUBJECT: / FLYING DISCS
Mr. Rosen
Mr. Tracy
Mr. Carson
Mr. Egan
Mr. Gurnea
Mr. Harbo
Mr. Hendon
Mr. Pennington
Reference is made to Mr. Howe's memorandum to you
Mr. Quinn Tamm
Tele. Room
dated July 11, in the above-captioned matter.
with Mr. Nease
Miss Holmes
At 11:55 P.M., July 11, I took a phone call from
Fitch Miss Gandy
Sergeant Lonis of the Laurel, Maryland, Police Department. Sergeant
Lonis said that he had examined the "flying disc." He said that it
had been made from a Gulf Oil sign and the top of a garbage can and
had been painted with aluminum paint. It had been recently painted
because the paint was still wet. Attached to it were a dry cell
battery, a flashlight bulb, some wires and a buzzer. He asked if
the Bureau was sending anyone out to look at it. I told him that
we were not, that we had referred the matter to the Army, and
suggested that he call them.
I subsequently telephoned Captain Calvert, the Duty
Officer at G-2, and passed on to him the information furnished by
Sergeant Lonis.
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FLYING DISC, INFORMATION CONCERNING.
MAJOR CURTAN, HEADQUARTERS
EIGHTH AIR FORCE, TELEPHONICALLY ADVISED THIS OFFICE THAT AN OBJECT
PURPORTING TO BE A FLYING DISC WAS RE COVERED NEAR ROSWELL, NEW
MEXICO, THIS DATE. THE DISC IS HEXAGONAL IN SHAPE AND WAS SUSPENDED
FROM A BALLON BY CABLE, WHICH BALLON WAS APPROXIMATELY TWENTY
FEET IN DIAMETER. MAJOR CURTAN FURTHER ADVISED THAT THE OBJECT
FOUND RESEMBLES A HIGH ALTITUDE WEATHER BALLOON WITH A RADAR
REFLECTOR, BUT THAT TELEPHONIC CONVERSATION BETWEEN THEIR OFFICE
AND WRIGHT FIELD HAD NOT SORNED BORNE OUT THIS BELIEF. DISC AND
BALLOON BEING TRANSPORTED TO WRIGHT FIELD BY SPECIAL PLANE FOR EXAMINATIO
INFORMATION PROVIDED THIS OFFICE BECAUSE OF NATIONAL INTEREST IN CASE
- AND FACT THAT NATIONAL BROADCASTING COMPANY, ASSOCIATED PRESS, AND
OTHERS ATTEMPTING TO BREAK STORY OF LOCATION OF DISC TODAY. MAJOR
CURTAN ADVISED WOULD REQUEST WRIGHT FIELD TO ADVISE CINCINNATI
OFFICE RESULTS OF EXAMINATION. NO FURTHER INVESTIGATION BEING
CONDUCTED.
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DIRECTOR FBI
VERY URGENT
FLYING DISCS. MISCELLANEOUS. F. HARISTON, FIFTEEN FIFTY FOUR
соррсть Miss Gandy
AVENUE, SHREVEPORT, LOUISIANA ADVISES HE OBSERVED A CIRCULAR DISC AT
SIX FIVE PM THIS DATE COMING FROM NW DIRECTION. DISC LANDED IN FIFTEEN
HUNDRED BLOCK OF TEXAS AVENUE. HAIRSTON PICKED UP DISC AT FIFTEEN
FIFTY FOUR TEXAS AVENUE. DISC WHIRLING WHEN SEEN IN AIR AND FIRE SEEN
SPOUTING FROM SIDES. FIRE WENT OUT ON LANDING AND SMOKE ISSUED FEW
SECONDS AFTER FIRE WENT OUT. DISC PICKED UP AND NOT HOT. HAIRSTON
NOTIFIED G-2 BARKSDALE IMMEDIATELY AND THEY TOOK DISC BEFORE SA ARRIVED.
DISC DESCRIPTION-- THIN ALUMINUM DISC SIXTEEN INCHES IN DIAMETER. HAS
SMALL COILS TWO INCHES IN DIAMETER AND FOUR INCHES LONG AT THE ENDS OF
THE DIAMETER. COILS CONNECTED BY TWO COPPER WIRES TO TWO TERMINALS ON
EACH COIL AND THESE WIRES ARE CONNECTED AT THE CROSSING IN THE CENTER OF
THE DISC TO AN OBJECT ONE INCH IN DIAMETER BY TWO INCHES LONG, SIMILIAR
TO STARTER ON FLOURESCENT LIGHT. CENTER OBJECT HAS ON UPPER END -
--MADE IN USA--MADE SOUND LIKE A POLICEMAN-S WHISTLE
AND SMOOTH SIDE TOWARD EARTH IN FLIGHT. BARKSDALE FIELD AGREED IF NOT
HARMFULL WOULD TURN OVER TO FBI IF WE WANT IT SUBJECT TO SUPERIOR
INSTRUCTIONS. NAMES OF ALL PERSON WHO HANDLED DISC BEFORE ARRIVAL OF
AGENT SECURED.
BARKSDALE FIELD MAKING PHOTOS. WILL SECURE
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Mr. Lie C. 4. Hoersch
EX-53
349 Central Avenue
Jersey City, New Jersey
Dear Ur. Hoersch:
Your letter dated July 6, 1947,
has been received and I do want to thank
you for making this information, available
to me. Your interest is appreciated.
Sincerely yours,
John Edgar Hoover
Director
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Mr. Tolson
COMMUNICATIONS SECTION
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Mr. Glavin
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Mr. Ladd
Mr. Nichols
Mr. Rosen
Mr. Tracy
JUL 11 1947 P.M.
Mr. Egan
Mr. Gurnea
Mr. Harbo
Mr. Mohr
Mr. Pennington
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
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305-307 Sunset Abenue
Ashury Park, New Jersey
7/6/47
Federal Bureau of Investigation
washing ton, D.C.
Stenttemen:
for your information E & for what
ever value it may be E should
Discs
like to upat seeing one of there
"7 fing Diece" on July 4. It appeared
to have started form the dance hall
here at asbury pack X momentarily
I thought it was a ballon but it
Flying
went in a definite direction at an
gradually accending following a path
apparently constant youd +
similar to the theyeatory of a
bullet but RECORDED more 63-83894-12 It
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at the dance shall.
I hope this may be of come help
L.C, Hoersch
to you.
yours Leafound very truly
nme
349 Central Hve
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7/10/474
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Doesn't it seem wisest for you to forbid papers - (No not forbid - but ask
the co-operation of all papers) to keep all news of those discs out of the news
untillyou are sure just what they are & where from.
Seems to us with all the enemies we have, even within our borders,
it could be something far more important than may seem at first. I had 2 sons
in this war & another who over-did for his America - & we do want it really
protected from danger from now on. Enough are dead & maimed - with-out losing out
now as it easily could be. Why have the papers carried that story if reporters
were made to see how much more sensible not to report - it except to the F.B.I.
There is too much of danger ahead anyway --
Hastily
/s/ G. T. Norris
1734 Thome Ave
Chicago -
TRUE COPY
STANDARD FORM NO. 64
Office Memorandum
UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO
: D. M. Ladd
ph
DATE:
Mr. Tolson
Mr. E. A. Tamm
July 11, 1947
Mr. Clegg
FROM : H. B. Fletcher
Mr. Glavin
Mr. Ladd
Mr. Nichols
Mr. Rosen
SUBJECT: FLYING DISCS
Mr. Tracy
Mr. Carson
Mr. Egan
Mr. Gurnea
Mr. Harbo
Mr. Hendon
Mr. Pennington
Mr. Quinn Tamm
Tele. Room
SAC Bannister of the Butte Office called at noon today and
Mr. Nease
Im
Miss Holmes
stated that a Mrs. Fred-Easterbrook, 215 7th Avenue East, Twin Falls,
Idaho, at 2:45 a.m. Mountain Time today heard a noise in the back of
her home. She thought a collision had occurred and investigated and
Cougpe Miss Gandy
found in the back yard of the home next door an object described as follows:
A disc 302" in diameter, circular in shape, it is dished like a
saucer and actually there is a saucer within a saucer in the manner of
think
cymbals. On one surface there is attached a plastic dome described as about
14" in diam±er and affixed by 8 bolts in a rather rough manner. The bolts
can best be described as similar to stove bolts. On the other surface is
another dome of metal which is gold in color on one side and on the inside is
silver in color, which looks like tin. Through the plastic dome can be ob-
served three tubes similar to radio tubes and there is some wiring. The disc
generally is 10" thick and at the point where the domes are located about
14" in thickness. There is an object on it similar to electric coil which
has some type of an arm on it and bears the words "Inspected TS". Some of
the wiring has been burned off and it looks as though something might be
missing.
Mr. Bannister stated that if this were the work of some prankster
he went to quite a bit of trouble. He stated the press is aware of this
incident. He stated that the disc had been picked up and was now at the
Police Department, Twin Falls, Idaho. He was instructed to notify the local
Army authorities of the existence of this disc.
It
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a matter of permenent record in the files of this Bureau. Your interest in
writing as you did is indeed appreciated.
In the future should you have information which you feel might be of
interest to this Bureau you might find it convenient to contact the Special Agent
in Charge of our Chicago Office, which is located at 1900 Bankers' Building,
Chicago 3, Illinois.
Sincerely yours,
John Edgar Hoover
Director
CC - Chicago (With Incoming. There is no identifiable information in the Bureau's
files concerning the writer of this letter. Despite the fact that
this letter refers to "flying discs", it is not believed that the
information furnished is sufficiently important to refer to Army
authorities.)
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Mr. Tolson
Mr. Tamm
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At 5:45 AM this date, SAC Hood telephonically contacted the
Mr. Nease
Miss Holmes
Bureau and advised at approximately 11:30 PM, July 9, 1947, the office
Miss Gandy
in Los Angeles had received information from the Resident Agent at Burbank
California, that a "flying disc" had landed in or near Burbank and had been
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seen to burst into flame when it landed. Further, that it had been the cause
of a fire in some woods, this fire either in Burbank or possibly in the city
limits of Los Angeles, which Mr. Hood could not be certain. The fire chief
at Burbank had called the resident agent at Burbank and told him he would
to
hold the disc for him.
Coincident with the information received from Burbank, the Los Angeles
Office received calls from the newspapers requesting information. The newspapers
stating they had called the Army Air Force Intelligence who had stated "we are
not interested". According to Mr. Hood, this comment had aroused the newspapers
and they stated they intended to publish this quotation and belabor same in their
firstissues. Mr. Hood stated that he had refrained from making any statement
to the press other than to admit possession of an object and that it was being
turned over to military authorities in the morning (this AM), it being Mr. Hood's
opinion that he did not want any quotes in the press and certainly not one to the
effect that we were not interested.
As described to him, Mr. Hood stated that the object was an aluminum
disc about 2' in diameter weighing about ten pounds, painted with aluminum paint
and having some sort of a radio tube in the center of the disc. This object was
in possession of the resident agent at Burbank and would be turned over to
military authorities (G-2) in Los Angeles this morning.
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the above described object and any further information would be transmitted to the
Bureau at once.
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DATE: July 17, 1947
SAC, Los Angeles
SUBJECT:
RECOVERY OF "FLYING DISC",
NORTH HOLLYWOOD, CALIFORNIA,
JULY 9, 1947
On the evening of July 9, 1947, a report was received at the Los
Angeles Office that a so-called "flying disc" had landed in the vicinity of
Radford and Magnolia Streets in North Hollywood, California, the contraption
being briefly described as approximately 30 inches in diameter, all metal,
disc shaped, and having a radio antenna. It was reported to have burst into
flames upon landing. At the time of the report the disc was being held at
the Valley Fire Department in Van Nuys, California.
SA RICHARD D. AUERBACH went to the fire department immediately at
which time it was found that a number of people had gathered including news-
paper reporters and photographers who were taking pictures of the disc.
Battalion Fire Chief WALLACE E. NEWCOMB advised Agent that at approximately
10:30 P.M., an unknown woman called on the telephone and excitedly reported
that the disc had dropped into her garden where it began to flame, her
residence being located at 11858 Magnolia Boulevard, North Hollywood. A
fire department truck was sent there and put out the flaming object with the
fire hose, after which the object was taken to the fire station. SA AUERBACH
thereafter arranged to transport the disc to the office.
The device is briefly described as consisting of two convex steel
discs approximately 2 feet in diameter, fused together at the outer edge
and fastened together in the center by a hollow cylindrical connection. A
vertical galvanized iron fin was screwed to the top of the disc, and a short
length of pipe closed at one end ran from the outer circumference into the
interior of the contraption. What appeared to be a radio tube was installed
in the center of the top side. The contraption had a total weight of
approximately 20 pounds.
At the Bureau Office a series of photographs were taken of the
device from various positions, and a set of these photographs are being
forwarded herewith for the Bureau's inspection and information.
The "flying disc" was thereafter turned over to Major COURTNEY W.
HEMPSTEAD, A.C., G-2, Fort MacArthur, San Pedro, California, who subsequent-
ly reported that the object was definitely a hoax and under no circumstances
could have flown under its own power.
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JULY 9, 1947
On the following day, July 10, 1947, one FRANK V. BROWN, 6552
Teesdale Avenue, North Hollywood, reported that on this morning he was at
the North Hollywood Service Station eating at which time there was
considerable talk about the flying disc having been found in the vicinity.
A number of what appeared to be young high school students were present
and were having quite a laugh about the excitement caused by the finding
of the disc. BROWN stated that he received a definite impression that
these young students either had themselves or knew of someone who had been
working for the past two weeks making this "flying disc". BROWN was
unable to furnish the names of any of these young men but identified one
of them who was making the statements as being employed in a Chevron
Service Station at the corner of Victory Boulevard and Whitsett Street.
He described the youngster as about sixteen years of age.
The above information was also furnished to the G-2 Office at
San Pedro, California.
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STANDARD FORM NO. 64
Office Memorandum
UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO
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DATE: July 3 1947
WS/FRO FROM : SAC, Butte
Harvey
SUBJECT: FLYING DISCS
R6. on Tcher
Mr. DAVE JOHNSON, of the X Idaho Daily Statesman, Boise, Idaho, tele-
phonically contacted the Butte Office and asked if the FBI was checking on
the flying discs reported to have been seen by many citizens. He advised
that so many had reported having seen them that it undoubtedly was not a
figment of the imagination. He said that these discs had been seen on July
1, 1947, in the vicinity of Trail Creek near Sun Valley, Idaho, by reputable
citizens.
DEFERRED my RECORDING
The writer informed Mr. JOHNSON that this office was not making
an investigation and inquired as to whether he had contacted Army and Navy
officials. He said that he was inquiring of these agencies.
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Thing
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AND A HAMMER AND SICKLE. MOUNTED ON PIECES OF BAKELITE IN THE CENTER
OF THE INSIDE OF THE DISK WERE TWO RADIO TUBES, WHICH WERE WIRED UP
AND ALSO SO MOUNTED WAS ABOUT A QUART TYRE CYLINDRICAL SHAPED OIL CAN
TO WHICH WAS FITTED A SHORT PIECE OF ROBBER TUBING RUNNING FROM CAN
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SUBJECT:
FLYING SAUCERS"
DATE: MHarney July 18, 1947
EDWIN M. BAILEY, JR.
MS
STAMFORD, CONNECTICUT, INFORMANT
ATOMIC ENERGY ACT
R.g. 7 lether
For the information of the Bureau this is to advise that on July 7, 1947,
EDWIN M. BAILEY, Jr., 6 Home Court, Stamford, Connecticut, appeared at the
Stamford Resident Agent's office and furnished the following information:-
Mr. BAILEY prefaced his remarks by stating that he is a scientist by
occupation and is currently employed at the American Cyanamid Research
Laboratories on West Main Street in Stamford, Connecticut, in the Physics
Division. Mr. BAILEY further indicated that during the war he was employed
at MIT, Cambridge, Massachusetts, in the Radiation Laboratory which Labora-
tory is connected with the Manhattan Project. BAILEY advised that he is
thirty years of age and is a graduate of the University of Arizona.
Mr. BAILEY stated that the topic of "flying saucers" had caused considerable
comment and concern to the present day scientists and indicated that he him-
self had a personal theory concerning the "flying saucers". Prior to
advancing his own theory, BAILEY remarked that immediately after the conclu-
sion of World War II, a friend of his, RENATO FECHETTI, allegedly observed
the "flying saucers" from an observatory in Milan and Bologna, Italy. He
stated that apparently at that time the "flying saucers" had caused a little
comment in Italy but that after some little publicity they immediately died
out as public interest. Mr. BAILEY stated that it is quite possible that
actually the "flying saucers" could be radio controlled germ bombs or atom
bombs which are circling the orbit of the earth and which could be controlled
by radio and directed to land on any designated target at the specific desire
of the agency or country operating the bombs. He stated that one of the
items of interest which he personally has observed is the fact that the
saucers have been observed in Mexico City, New Orleans, Philadelphia, New
York, Boston, Halifax, Newfoundland, Paris, Milan, Bologna and Yugoslavia
as well as Albania. By placing a string around the globe of the earth it
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Re: "FLYING SAUCERS"
EDWIN M. BAILEY, JR.,
STAMFORD, CONNECTICUT, INFORMANT
ATOMIC ENERGY ACT
would be noticed that all of the above-mentioned cities form a
direct orbit or circle around the earth and would be more or less
in line of any path in which the saucers could be circling.
Mr. BAILEY further stated that he had recently talked with RICHARD
PERKIN, one of the owners of Perkin-Elmer Company in Glenbrook,
Connecticut, and had been informed by Mr. PERKIN that his company is
making a large powerful telescope to be used in searching the strato-
sphere for atom bombs.
Mr. Tolson
E. A. Tamm
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
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Mr. Glavin
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WASKER, OF WEST RINDGE, N.H., A RETIRED VICE PRESIDENT OF THE NEW
ENGLAND TEL. AND TEL CO. MR. TASKER ADVISED THAT AT APPROXIMATEY THREE
PM ON JULY SEVEN LAST SEVERAL PEOPLE SITTING ON A PORCH OBSERVED ON THE
LAWN OF EARLAWHITEHEAD, ROUTE TWO NAUGHT TWO, WEST RINDGE, NeHa, LITTLE CURLS
OF SMOKE, WHICH ON INSPECTION DISCLOSED SMALL BURNED SPOTS ABOUT ONE
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IS ALSO ENDEAVORING TO COLLECT ADDITIONAL FRAGMENTS AND HAS STATED
THAT THE FIRE CHIEF AT WEST RINDGE HAS ALSO SEVERAL FRAGMENTS IN HIS
POSSESSION. MR. TASKER INDICATED THAT THE WHITEHEAD RESIDENCE IS SEVEN
TO EIGHT HUNDRED FEET EAST OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS. DEAN BUNKER STATED
HE WILL MAKE THE RESULTS OF MIT RESEARCH AVAILABLE IF SIGNIFICANT.
OPINIONS OF SCIENT ISTS AS SET FORTH ABOVE SUGGEST POSSBLE MILITARY
INTEREST. MILITARY AUTHORITIES AT BOSTON HAVE NOT BEEN NOTIFIED.
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41 Wright Street
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Dear Mrs. Clark:
Your letter dated July 17, 1947,
together with enclosures, has been received
and I want to shank you for submitting the
letter you mentioned to me.
Sincerely yours,
John Edgar Hoover
Director
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reveive numberless duplicates. I will risk that. Mr. Clark
as an economist at Columbia University receives many strange
missives. This is as strange a one as has come for some
time, and very appropriate to the present moment.
Sincerely yours,
Winifred G.XClark
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Dear Sir:
Have you seen one of the mysterious "Saucers"?
What did it look like?
Do you think these strange, celestial manifesta-
tions are harbingers of a better day?
Do you believe it means that a new and revolutionary
advance is coming?
Will it make your life brighter, happier, more
useful?
We believe one of these startling discs is on its
way to you. Then the secret will be out.
The Combined and Amalgamated Committee
of Sky-Scanners, Disc Decipherers and
New-Product Introducers.
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to me is greatly appreciated.
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Sincerely yours,
John Edgar Hoover
Director
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attention is greatly appreciated.
Insuranch as the contents of your telegram appear to be of
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turning this information over to that Department.
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DAHL DID NOT ADMIT TO SMITH THAT HIS STORY WAS A HOAX BUT ONLY
STATED THAT IF QUESTIONED BY AUTHORITIES HE WAS GOING TO SAY IT WAS
A HOAX BECAUSE HE DID NOT WANT ANY FURTHER TROUBLE OVER THE MATTER.
COMPLETE REPORT NOW EN ROUTE TO BUREAU AMSD, WHICH INDICATES
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HOPE OF BULDING UP THEIR STORY THROUGH PUBLICITY TO A POINT WHERE
THEY COULD MAKE A PROFITABLE DEAL WITH FANTASY MAGAZINE, CHICAGO
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numbers, discs would obtain tremendous a wire, from an airplane in high altitudes in odd
these in The Army Air speed in their descent and would decend and that
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that the reporte ;reating a might have been made by subversive individuals some for
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7-30-47
BUREAU BULLETIN NO. 42
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Series 1947
You should investigate each instance which is brought to your attention
of a sighting of a flying disc in order to ascertain whether or not is is a bona
fide sighting, an imaginary one or a prank. You should also bear in mind that
66-03-839
individuals might report seeing flying discs for various reasons. It is conceivable
that an individual might be desirous of seeking personal publicity, causing hysteria
or playing a prank.
The Bureau should be notified immediately by teletype of all reported
sightings and the results of your inquiries. In instances where the report appears
to have merit, the teletype should be followed by a letter to the Bureau containing
in detail the results of your inquiries. The Army Air Forces have assured the
Bureau complete cooperating in these matters and in any instances where they fail to
make information available to you or make the recovered discs available for your
ORIGINAL COPY FILED
examination, it should promptly be brought to the attention of the Bureau.
Any information you develop in connection with these discs should be
promptly brought to the attention of the Army through your usual liaison channels.
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Special Agent S. W. Reynolds discussed the above captioned matter with him
on July 9, 1947. General Schulgen indicated to Mr. Reynolds that the Air Corps
has taken the attitude that every effort must be undertaken in order to run down
and ascertain whether or not the flying disks are a fact and, if so, to learn
about them. According to General Schulgen, the Air Corps Intelligence are
lizing all of their scientists in order to ascertain whether or not such 8.
nomenon could in fact occur. He stated that this research is being conducted
4 the thought that the flying objects might be a celestial phenomenon and with
view that they might be a foreign body mechanically devised and controlled.
General Schulgen also indicated to Mr. Reynolds that all Air Corps
tallations have been alerted to run out each reported sighting to obtain all
ible data to assist in this research project. In passing, General Schulgen
ed that an Air Corps pilot who believed that he saw one of these objects was
roughly interrogated by General Schulgen and scientists, as well as a psy-
chologist, and the pilot was adamant in his claim that he saw a flying disk.
General Schulgen advised Mr. Reynolds that the possibility exists that
the first reported sightings of the so-called flying disks were fallacious and
prompted by individuals seeking personal publicity, or were reported for political
reasons. He stated that if this was so, subsequent sightings might be the result
of a mass hysteria. He pointed out that the thought exists that the first reported
sightings might have been by individuals of Communist sympathies with the view to
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causing hysteria and fear of a secret Russian weapon.
General Schulgen indicated to Mr. Reynolds that he is desirous of
having all the angles covered in this matter. He stated that reports of his
scientists and findings of the various Air Corps installations will be available
in his office. He advised that to complete the picture he desired the assistance
of the Federal Bureau of Investigation in locating and questioning the individuals
who first sighted the so-called flying disks in order to ascertain whether or not
they are sincere in their statements that they saw these disks, or whether their
statements were prompted by personal desire for publicity or political reasons.
General Schulgen assured Mr. Reynolds that there are no War Department or Navy
Department research projects presently being conducted which could in any way be
tied up with the flying disks. General Schulgen indicated to Mr. Reynolds that
if the Bureau would cooperate with him in this matter, he would offer all the
facilities of his office as to results obtained in the effort to identify and
run down this matter.
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Mr. Reynolds also discussed this matter with Colonel L. R. Forney of MID.
Colonel Forney indicated that it was his attitude that inasmuch as it has been
established that the fl ying disks are not the result of any Army or Navy experi-
ments, the matter is of interest to the FBI. He stated that he was of the opinion
that the Bureau, if at all possible, should accede to General Schulgen's request.
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I would recommend that we advise the Army that the Bureau does not believe it
should go into these investigations, it being noted that a great bulk of those
alleged discs reported found have been pranks. It is not believed that the
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907 Seneca Avenue
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Dear Mr.
RECORDED Pluskat: 62-83894-35
I desire to acknowledge receipt of your letter dated July 14, 1947,
and to express my appreciation to you for bringing this matter to my attention.
The information set forth in your letter has been carefully reviewed
and is being maintained in this Bureau as a matter of record.
Sincerely yours,
John Edgar Hoover
Director
NOTE: Pluskat has been a previous correspondent with the Bu file 62-0-34750.
Mr. Tolson
Mr. E. A. Tamm
Mr. Clegg
Mr. Glavin
Mr. Ladd
No record could be located in the Crime Records Section indication DE that the
correspondent might be a mental case.
Mr. Nichols
Mr. Rosen
COMMUNICATIONS SECTION
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Mr. Carson
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DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
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July 1947.,
Mr.J.Edgar Hoover.Chief, of the F.B.I.
Washington,D.
Dear Sir;
Please forgive me for taking up your time, with this item.It really isn't
necessary. Yet, although everybodys tongue was wagging from the East and to the
West coast, I couldn't resist putting my oar in.
Flying Saucers in the Sky. Heading for the Milky Way.Funny?I dont know.
We read and read and read. "Sky Disc Derby Open to All"-"Calls "Saucers "Trick
of Vision"-"Believe it or not, 27 States see those flying saucers"-"Who saw the
Saycers?40 States in the Game "Celestial Dishes sought between the Raindrops"-
"Find 'Disk'is weather kite"-"Disks called chunks of Mirage" "Report new Red
Planes resemble Flying Saucers .-Air-liner crew reports seeing 9 flying diske
for 12 minutes" That's the way it went on, for days and days.
Please, dont remind me that this id a military problem. Soldiers fight the en-
emy out in the open and away from home if possible. The Federal Agents (the unsung
heroes) fight the ememy under cover and in their home grounds. Here I am.
These so-called saucers may be kites, but according to reports, these things
didn't flutter or float, they sailed and kites don't sail, the stranges part is,
they all sailed in the same direction, from West to East.
Rewards were offered, no collectors. Planes chased them, none captured. They had
to land, no finders.So. long as the Military, Scientist and Civilians deny, being
respomsible for this. Were doed it lead to?An enemy A little while back, it was
mentioned somewhere that Russia had or has a contraption for their next war, em-
itting sound (like a silent whistle for dogs) what it'skaxto do, tb their enemy,I
don't know. If a country was experimenting such a weapon, the brave people of the
U.S.were not scared. They only informed the so-called enemy how successful they
*hair were.
It could be an optical illusion, or; supposing some unwelcomed persons, planted
a few well chosen words, here and there and left the rest to an confused mind.
These innocent people reporting the phenomena.
What confuses me is, that when we became too curious and determined to find
out what they really are, those things disappeared and we found substitutes, called
kites. These things resembling description as near as possible to the real thing.
Why couldn't these things have been directed ba ck home again like a homing pigeon?
To make sport of this thing, is ba d taste. It sort of reminds me of the boy that
cried WOLF. When the wolf really came.Twas sad.He, was a niceboy. There s? ould be я
law, against such jokes or experimentsurced They should be con
less or rădicules be tried for treason, even;if the authorities.The
in plomoduod, should to the proper
This POOH POOH business.i We can't no take joke. any chances.At this age, so-called Time is slow.Man, joke seems is
sun rushing going from Mississippi, Missouri, Platte, Columbia (mirages) t)
I had waters in mind of that the the floods were responsible for these disks
were, went from Rocky Mountains in the West Refections, North, or whateve Blu
Ridge in the East East and to the West, plus the Catskill in the Easterly and Ohio Rivers. The
West to East.Hence the Disks?I RECORDED hope
Respectfully 62-83894- Submitt
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George Pluskat.
MEMORANDUM FOR D. M. LADD
7/23/47
RECOMMENDATION
There is attached a Bureau Bulletin to the Field for their
assistance in handling this matter.
Attachment
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STANDARD FORM NO. 64
Office Memorandum
UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO
:
D. M. LADD
DATE: 7/24/47
Mr. Tolson
Mr. E. A. Tamm
Mr. Clegg
E. G. Fitch
Mr. Coffey
FROM :
Mr. Glavin
Mr. Ladd
Mr. Nichols
SUBJECT:
FLYING DISCS
Mr. Rosen
Mr. Tracy
Mr. Mohr
Mr. Carson
Reference is made to my memorandum to you in the above captioned
Mr. Hendon
Mr. Mumford
matter dated July 10, 1947, indicating that Brigadier General George F.
Mr. Jones
Mr. Quinn Tamm
Schulgen of the Army Air Corps Intelligence had requested that the Bureau
Tele. Room
Mr. Nease
cooperate with the Army Air Corps Intelligence in connection with the above
Miss Beahm
Miss Gandy
captioned matter. The Director noted on the referenced memorandum, "I
would do it but before agreeing to it we must insist upon full access to
discs recovered. For instance in the La. case the Army grabbed it and would
not let us have it for cursory examination."
This is to advise that Special Agent Reynolds has recontacted
General Schulgen and advised him in connection with the Director's notation.
General Schulgen indicated to Mr. Reynolds that he desired to assure Mr.
Hoover of complete cooperation in this matter and stated that he would issue
instructions to the field directing that all cooperation be furnished to the
FBI and that all discs recovered be made available for the examination by
the FBI Agents. General Schulgen pointed out to Mr. Reynolds that he will
from time to time make the results of the studies of his scientists available
to the Bureau for the assistance of the FBI Field Offices. General Schulgen
indicated to Mr. Reynolds that there has been a decrease in the reported
sightings of the discs which might be because of the fact that it has lost much of
its publicity value. He indicated, however, that he believed it necessary to
follow this matter through to determine as near as possible if discs were in
fact seen and to determine their origin.
General Schulgen inquired of Mr. Reynolds the method by which the
Bureau would make the information obtained from the Bureau's inquiries, known
to the Air Corps, in the Field as well as at the War Department level. Mr.
Reynolds pointed out to General Schulgen that the best procedure appeared to
be through the regular established channels. It was pointed out to General
Schulgen that the Bureau Field Offices maintain close liaison with the
Intelligence Divisions of the various Armies as well as close liaison with the
Intelligence Division of the War Department. General Schulgen indicated that he
would be satisfied to receive information through this means.
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General Schulgen indicated to Mr. Reynolds that he believed that there
was a possibility that this entire matter might have been started by subversive
individuals for the purpose of creating a mass hysteria. He suggested that the
Bureau keep this in mind in any interviews conducted regarding reported sightings.
General Schulgen stated to Mr. Reynolds that he would make available to the Bureau
all information in the possession of the Air Corps regarding the sightings which
were first reported so that the Bureau could conduct some investigation regarding
these individuals to ascertain their motives for reporting that they had observed
flying discs. When General Schulgen makes the information available regarding
these individuals, it will be promptly brought to your attention.
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FLYING OBJECTS IN AIR
Mrs. GWYNNE M. MERCHANT has come to the resident agency at Santa Fe,
New Mexico on several occasions to report that she has received information
concerning flying objects passing through the air. Some of the reports that she
has received concern light objects seen at night which have allegedly been follow-
ed by explosions. She advised that one of such objects was reported by FRANK
BURTRAM, Forest Ranger, who works near Canjilon, New Mexico. She claims that
others were seen near Park View and Tierra Amarilla, New Mexico.
Mrs. MERCHANT called attention to clippings from various newspapers
concerning "disc-like" objects seen in New Mexico and other parts of the country.
Mrs. MERCHANT claims to be a student of radio waves and ray forms, and
contends that the above mentioned objects may be missiles similar to those appear-
ing over Sweden some time ago.
Mrs. MERCHANT has discussed the above with officials of the Atomic
Energy Commission, and has written the Secretary of War and other government
officials concerning her theories. Mr. SIDNEY NEWBURGER, Chief of Security and
Intelligence for the A.E.C., has advised that officials at Los Alamos consider Mrs.
MERCHANT unreliable and possibly not well balanced mentally. She has mentioned to
agents of this office that she was struck by lightning when a child.
On July 15, Mrs. MERCHANT came to the Santa Fe resident agency and
advised that she had written to WALTER WINCHELL, promising him a story in connection
with the "flying discs."
The foregoing information is being submitted to the Bureau, inasmuch as
Mrs. MERCHANT has written to several government officials and Mr. WINCHELL.
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particular case at hand, allow G-2 to handle and not take any jurisdiction forthe
FBI. He was ttold the Bureau would be interested in being kept a dvised of develop-
ments, and in copies of the photographs he said G-2 would make of the object
found, but that he should not allow himself to be jockeyed into a position where
investigative responsibility, if any were entailed, would fall on us. Mr. Weeks said
he would so handle unless I called him back immediately with instructions for
specific action.
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1. On 1 July 1947, Lt William G. McGinty, USN, 195803, P-80
Student, Williams Field, Chandler, Arizona, was interviewed by
this Agent, and stated in substance: That on 30 June 1947, at about
0910, MST, he was flying at 25,000 feet over Grand Canyon, Arizona, in
a P-80 type aircraft. He stated that he was heading south towards
Williams Field, Ariz., when he saw two round objects going at incon-
ceivable speeds, straight down. He further stated that his reactions
were to turn away from the objects. He further stated that one of the
unidentifiable objects followed the other seconds apart. He further
stated that due to the speed of the objects, he could only see that
they were circular, and that they were possible light gray in color.
He further stated that it was his opinion that the objects were approx-
imately eight feet in diameter. In conclusion, he stated that the
objects would have probably hit the ground approximately twenty-five
miles south of the South Rim of Grand Canyon, Arizona.
AGENT'S NOTES: Lt McGinty gave his permanent address as: N.A.M.T.C.,
Point Hugu, Port Hueneme, Calif.
2. On 1 July 1947, Captain Malcolm G. G.X Armstrong, 0-734168,
Instructor, Single Engine, Williams Field, Chandler, Arizona, was
interviewed by this Agent and stated in substance: That his brother
1st Lt E. B. Armstrong, stationed at Hq, 10th AAF, Brooks AAF, Texas
had related to him that he saw a formation of unexplainable objects
in the vicinity of La ke Mead, Nev. Captain Armstrong, further stated
that his brother stated the objects were heading south, and were at
approximately 10,000 feet altitude.
AGENT'S NOTES: Captain Armstrong could not give too much information
on the objects that his brother had seen. Lt. E. B. Armstrong can be
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Subject : MRS. ARTHUR DOUGLASS ANDERSON
There are attached hereto copies of a letter received from the
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RECENT REPORTED FLYING DISCS IN PORTLAND AREA AND A REPORTED CONFERENCE
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OF ARMY OFFICIALS IN PORTLAND CONCERNING FLYING DISCS. LEAVERITT C.
RICHARDS, AVIATION EDITOR THE OREGONIAN, ADVISED THAT A CAPTAIN
WILLIAM L. DAVIDSON AND LT. FRANK M. BROWN OF FOURTH AAF HEADQUARTERS,
SAN FRANCISCO WERE IN PORTLAND JULY TWENTYSEVEN LAST AND INTERVIEWED
DICK RANKIN, AN EXPERIENCED PILOT, WHO HAD REPORTED JUNE FOURTEEN
LAST SEEING A FORMATION OF TEN FLYING DISCS OVER BAKERS-
FIELD, CALIF. ACCORDING TO RICHARDS THEY HAD ALSO INTERVIEWED
FOLLOWING FOUR EXPERIENCED PILOTS WHO WERE AMONG FIRST WHO REPORTED
SEEING DISCS - KENNETH ARNOLD, BUSINESS MAN, BOISE, IDAHO, CAPTAIN
E. J. SMITH AND CO-PILOT RALPH STEVENS, UNITED AIRLINES, AND DAVE
JOHNSON, AVIATION EDITOR, IDAHO STATESMAN. TO ASCERTAIN THE
PURPOSE OF THINTERVEWS RICHARDS CONTACTED MAJOR GENERAL TWINING
OF WRIGHT FIELD, OHIO BY PHONE AT ALBUQUERQUE, NM, AND FROM HIM
GAINED THE IMPRESSION THAT THE AAF INSTITUTED THIS INVESTIGATION TO
WASH OUT THE DISC REPORTS, SINCE THEY ARE DEFINITELY NOT OF AAF ORIGIN.
ON FRIDAY, AUGUST FIRST, THE PLANE IN WHICH AAF INVESTICATORS CAPTAIN
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PRESS PUT OUT A STORY THE PLANE WAS CARRYING PARTS OF A DISC WHICH
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RICHARDS ADVISED THAT TODAYS ISSUE OF THE OREGONIAN CARRIES A UP STORY
STATING THAT DAHL DENIES SAYING THE METAL FRAGMENTS HE FURNISHED WERE
FROM A DISC, AND ANALYSIS OF THE FRAGMENTS SHOWS THEM TO BE FROM A
TACOMA SLAG MILL. NO AAF INTELLIGENCE PERSONNEL AVAILABLE PORTLAND.
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RECENT REPORTED FLYING DISCS IN PORTLAND AREA AND A REPORTED CONFERENCE
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DATE: August 6, 1947
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Mr. Tolson
Mr. E. A. Tamm
Mr. Clegg
SUBJECT:
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Mr. Glavin
Mr. Ladd
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Mr. Nichols
Mr. Rosen
Special Agent S.W. Reynolds of the Liaison Section contacted
Mr. Tracy
Mr. Carson
Lieutenant Colonel C. P. Martin, Army Air Forces Intelligence, inquiring
Mr. Egan
Mr. Gurnea
about an article which appeared in the West Coast newspapers recently
Mr. Harbo
Mr. Mohr
Mr. Pennington
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Mr. Nease
Miss Holmes
Miss Gandy
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that has been received by Headquarters of the Army Air Forces is that a
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was killed in an airplane crash. The Headquarters of the Air Forces have been
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was under the impression that the CIC Agent was either on route to or from an
interview with Mr. Arnold who is one of the individuals who first saw one of
the flying saucers.
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and will receive none until the report is received from the 4th Air Forces.
Colonel Martin suggested that the San Francisco Field Office contact Colonel
Springer, Headquarters 4th Air Forces, Hamilton Field, San Francisco, who
undoubtedly would be able to furnish the details regarding this matter which
are at this time unknown by the Headquarters of the Air Forces. Colonel Martin
pointed out to Mr. Reynolds, however, that it was his belief that no flying
saucers have been recovered but that it was merely an attempt to reinterview
an individual who previously had reported seeing one of the flying saucers.
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Federal Bureau of Investigation
Gentlemen;
Pylying Discs
Recently I have heard and read about reports of disc-shaped aircraft,
or whatever they are, in our western regions. They reminded me of a nearly
forgotten incident in Germany, after the war. I report this to you because
I
I feel this may be of international scope.
My buddy and I went on pass to see a friend of his. One evening the
three of us were driving along some back roads when I sighted a strange
looking object in the sky from eight to ten miles to our front and approx-
imatly 5,000 feet high.
I immediatly stopped the jeep for a better look. the object rapidly
came toward us, descending slowly. About a mile away it stopped it's
horizontal motion but continued a slow oscillating descent, similar to a
descending parachute. Then suddenly it dropped in a spiral motion.
Immediatly I drove over to where it had dropped. It took almost five
nec
minutes to reach the place but we saw nothing. After ten minutes of cruis
ing around the area it became too dark to see so we went back to town.
because
I am not sure my companions saw this, it happened so quickly it could
easily have been missed, but I described what I had seen so vividly that
they were as excited as I was. RECORDST impression was that it was a cloud,
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Attention: Colonel L. R. Forney, Chief, Security Group
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Subject: ROBERT J. SROKA
There are attached hereto copies of a letter received from the
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DATE: August 8, 1947
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SUBJECT: FLYING DISCS
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Re Bureau Bulletin No. 42, dated July 30, 1947,
Series 1947, wherein information is set forth pertaining to
flying discs.
There is enclosed with this letter a newspaper
clipping from the "Norfolk Ledger-Dispatch", dated July 9, 1947.
The photograph appearing on this clipping is alleged to represent
a flying disc which was observed by BILLY TURRENTINE, a Norfolk
school boy, who was successful in photographing the object with
his small camera.
BILLY was interviewed on August 8, 1947 by Special
Agent (A) THOMAS J. CONNOR, at which time BILLY informed that the
original negative was given by him to a Mr. BROWN of the Photo
Craftsman Service, who in turn furnished the negative to the
International News Service. BILLY advised that he has an agree-
ment with Mr. BROWN whereby the latter will share equally in any
profits derived from the use of the negative by commercial firms
or newspapers. As of August 8, 1947 BILLY has notreceived any
remuneration for the use of this negative.
He informed that he was sitting on the front porch
of his apartment which is located on the third floor at 410 West
14th Street, Norfolk, Virginia, around noontime on July 8, 1947.
He had read numerous newspaper articles pertaining to flying discs
and decided to sit on his front porch in the hopes of seeing one
and attempting to photograph it. On July 8, 1947 BILLY observed
a large, black object moving rapidly through space proceeding from
the southwest to a northeast direction. He said the black object
was followed by two smaller objects which also proceeded in the
same direction. BILLY explained that the objects were moving at
a very fast speed which appeared to him to be much faster than
the speed of an airplane, and further, that the objects appeared
to be extremely high. He said that they were much higher than the
average plane travels in the City of Norfolk and appeared to be
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above the clouds, and that a white mist followed each of the three
objects. BILLY was unable to state what the black objects repre-
sented, but admitted that they could have been large balloons. He
indicated that he has observed small, toy balloons flying through
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a great distance from him that it was not necessary that he raise
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Re: FLYING DISCS
August 8, 1947
his camera and estimated it took him approximately twenty to thirty
seconds, at which time the discs were almost directly over his apart-
ment and it was necessary that he stoop and look up almost perpen-
dicular in order to obtain the photograph, which accounts for the
porch railing being shown in the newspaper clipping. BILLY pointed
out that the day on which he took the picture, the weather was hazy
and somewhat cloudy and there was a slight breeze blowing from the
southwest in the general direction of the northeast, which is the
same direction traveled by the black image which he photographed.
Inasmuch as the Army authorities in the Tidewater Area
of Virginia are cognizant of the above information, no further investi-
gation will be conducted by this office in this matter.
Enclosure.
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7-9-47
Flying Disc 'Bigger Than Automobile' Photographed
By Youth Who Is Amazed Because No One Else Saw It
By GEORGE HEBERT
few seconds later didn't look any-
The flying disc "was lots bigger
thing like saucers.'
than an automobile," and 15-year-
Looked Like Football
old Bil Turrentine, of 410 West
The boy stuck to his football
Fourteenth Street, doesn't under-
comparison, explaining that the
stand why almost everybody in
object was sort of rounded, more
Norfolk didn't see it.
oval than disc-like, and that though
In fact, when he came to the
it wobbled in its northeastward
Ledger-Dispatch with a photograph
flight it was traveling very rapidly,
he had taken of the object, he
about 600 miles an hour.
wanted to know why the newspa-
He guessed that the altitude of
pers hadn't already taken a pic-
the thing was about 5,000 feet,
ture of it. "I thought your photo-
just below the clouds. In color it
graphers were fast," he told a re-
was "gray, almost black," and
porter.
looked like a "burned crisp," or
NORFOLK BOY AND PHOTO OF DISC-Bill Turrentine, '15, (right)
tells Ledger-Dispatch reporter George Herbert (left) of the "lucky"
circumstances which enabled him to take the photograph at far
right of a flying disc. However, the boy said the object pictured here
looked and moved more like a football, being rounded and oval, rather
than disc-like. Bill took this picture from the porch of his home at
410 West Fourteenth Street between 11 o'clock and noon Tuesday,
(Editor's Note: Although the
maybe a rock or stone. The edges
using an old camera, with the shutter set at 1/100th of a second. He
Ledger-Dispatch has had many re-
glittered, he said, and seemed to be
Ports of flying discs and saucers in
trailing dust. Neither it nor the
said the "flying football" shown here was followed by two smaller
recent days, no other person re-
two which followed made any
ones, all moving at about 600 miles an hour and he guessed they were
ported seeing the object which Tur-
sound.
about 5,000 feet high, just below the clouds. The photograph reproduc-
rentine photographed.)
Bill said he wasn't very sur-
ed here is an enlargement made by Photo Craftsmen. In the fore-
However, Bill said he had done
prised when he saw the object,
ground of young Turrentine's picture is the porch rail of his home.
some fast moving himself shortly
but "almost killed myself" getting
before noon Tuesday, when he
shots of it with his camera, set at
enlargement made by Photo Crafts-
1/100th of a second.
men.
stood on his front porch and saw
the large gray object, "rocking
He called his 18-year-old sister,
Photo experts of this firm are
and spinning like a football" and
Josephine, to come and look, but
convinced that the boy did a fine
coming from the southwest.
apparently she didn't believe him.
job with the old camera he was
He had just returned from Sum-
As the "flying football" passed
using. Having closely examined
mer school classes at Maury, he
over, Bill said he took three shots
the negative, they said the only
of it, but when he hurriedly vel-
flaw was in the kind of film, which
said, and with all the talk about
oped the film, after legging it to
perhaps didn't bring out enough
"flying saucers," had gone out
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with his camera to see if he could
Olney Road for a vial of developer,
detail. They pointed out, however,
only one negative came out well
that this wasn't really a flaw, in
see anything.
don't see why they call them
enough for reproduction.
view of the fact that Bill's photo-
graph, with the comparison af-
flying saucers." he said. "The big
He showed a reporter a contact
forded by the front porch rail and
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one I took a picture of and the two
print he had made himself, and
the trees, was certainly the best
little ones that came behind it a
the picture reproduced here is an
one taken since the mysterious
discs were first reported
The Hying Roll
3615 Alexia Place
San Diego 4, Calif.
THE ROUND ROBIN
THE FLYING ROLL
6751 Papers
San Dicgo, California. July 8, 1947 -
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(For your Information)
- A MEMORANDUM OF IMPORTANCE -
THIS EMORANDUM is respectfully addressed to certain scientists of distinction,
to important aeronautical and military authorities, to a number of public officials,
and to a few publications.
The writer has little expectation that anything of import will be accomplished
by this gesture. The mere fact that the data herein were obtained by so-called
supernormal means is probably sufficient to insure its disregard by nearly all the
persons addressed; nevertheless it soems a public duty to make it available. (The
present writer has several university degrees and was formerly a university depart-
ment head).
A very serious situation may develop at any time with regard to the flying
saucers. If one of these should be attacked, the attacking plane will almost cer-
tainly be destroyed. In the public mind this might create near panic and internat-
ional suspicion. The principal data concerning these craft is now at hand and must
be offered, no matter how fantastic and unintelligible it may seem to minds not
previously instructed in thinking of this type.
1. Part of the disks carry crews, others are under remote control.
2. Their mission is peaceful. The visitors contemplate settling on this planet.
3. These visitors are human-like but much larger in size.
4. They are NOT excarnate earth people, but come from their own world.
5. They do NOT come from any "planet" as we use the word, but from an etheric
planet which interpenetrates with our own and is not perceptible to us.
6. The bodies of the visitors, and the craft also, automatically "materialize"
on entering the vibratory rate of our dense matter. (cp. "apports."
7.
The disks possess a type of radiant energy, or a ray, which will easily
disintegrate any attacking ship. They reenter the etheric at will, and
so simply disappear from our vision, without trace.
Action
8.
The region from which they come is NOT the "astral plane", but corres -
ponds to the Lokas or Talas. Students of esoteric matters will understand
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We give information and. warning, and can do no more. Let the REWCOMERS be
treated with every kindness. Unless the disks are withdrawn, a situation threatens
with which our culture and science are incapable of dealing. A heavy responsibil-
ity rests upon the few in authority who are able to understand this matter.
N.Meade Layne
3615 Alexia 252 Place
Addendum: The Lokas are oval shape, fluted lengthwise of the
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oval with a heat-resisting metal or alloy not yet known to us:
the front edge, contains the controls; the middle portion is B.)
laboratory; the rear contains armament, consists essentially of a powerful radian
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There is attached hereto a letter received from the captioned
individual postmarked July 12, 1947, concerning flying saucers. "
There is also attached a letter of acknowledgement to Mrs.
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FLYING DISCS. SECURITY MATTER DASH X. ONE RED HATFIELD, FOREMR NAVY
PILOT AND PRESENTLY AIRPORT MANAGER, MYRTLE CREEK, LIT OREGON, REPORTS
SEEING A MYSTERIOUS OBJECT ON TWO OCASIONS THE EVENING OF AUGUST SIXTH
WMILE FLYING AT ABOUT FIVE THOUSAND FEET ABOVE MYRTLE CREEK. HATFIELD TO
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DATE: August 12, 1947
FROM SAC, MILWAUKEE
SUBJECT: FLYING DISCS
SABOTAGE
Reference is made to Bureau Bulletin No. 42, Series 1947,
dated July 30, 1947, Section (B), which advises that all reports
concerning flying discs should be investigated by field offices.
Prior to the receipt of these instructions, two instances
were called to the attention of this office concerning flying discs.
One report was received July 7, 1947, the details of which are set
forth in Milwaukee letter to the Bureau dated July 8, 1947, entitled,
"Flying Discs or Saucers, Miscellaneous, Telephone Call from Mr.
Fletcher at the Bureau at 8:30 a.m., 7-7-47." No investigation was
conducted concerning this report.
The second report was received by this office at 1:20 p.m.
July 11, 1947, from Lieutenant Colonel HARRY W. SCHAEFER, who is in
charge of the Civil Air Patrol of Wisconsin, an auxiliary of the
Army Air Forces. On that occasion Colonel SCHAEFER, calling from
Black River Falls, Wisconsin, telephonically advised this office that
an object in the shape of a disc, nineteen inches in diameter had been
found July 10, 1947, by one SIG HANSON, city electrician on the Jackson
County fairgrounds, near Black River Falls, Wisconsin, about 3:30 p.m.
The disc might be made of a substance such as cardboard covered by a
silver airplane dope material. The contraption has a small wooden tail
like a rudder in the back and inside of the disc is what appears to be
an RCA photo-electric cell or tube. Also inside the disc is a little
electric motor with a shaft running to the center of the disc. At one
end of the shaft is a very small propeller. In Colonel SCHAFFER's
opinion that contraption might possibly have been made by some juvenile.
Colonel SCHAFFER stated that he desired to return the contraption to
Milwaukee and eventually turn it over to the Army Air Forces, but that
the finder, SIG HANSON, apparently wanted to get some publicity on his
find and wanted it returned to him.
This information was telephonically called to the attention
of Assistant Director D. M. LADD of the Bureau on July 11, 1947.
Subsequently, SAC H. K. JOHNSON telephoned Colonel FRED SIEBERT
in charge of Counter Intelligence, Fifth Army, Chicago AC of S G-2
Headquarters Fifth Army, East Hyde Park Avenue, Chicago, Illinois, who
stated he would contact Colonel SCHAEFER of Black River Falls, Wisconsin.
No further investigation was conducted in this matter.
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The above constitutes the only two instances in which
this office was contacted concerning flying discs. Unless contrary
instructions are received from the Bureau, this office does not
contemplate taking any further action in connection with the above
two cases, but will fully investigate all future reports concerning
flying discs.
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Mr. Fred R. Reibold
2315 Himebaugh Avenue
Omaha, Nebraska
Dear Mr. Reibold:
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I wish to acknowledge receipt of your letter post-
marked July 10, 1947, together with its enclosure.
Inasmuch as the information which you furnished is
of interest to the War Department I have taken the liberty of
furnishing it to that agency for their consideration.
Sincerely yours,
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UNIDENTIFIABLE objects,
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WILLIAMS FIELD, CHANDLER,
ARIZONA.
NND 90986
14 July 1947
MEMORANDUM FOR THE OFFICER IN CHARGE:
On 8 July 1947, this Agent obtained pictures of unidentifiable
objects, (Exhibits 1 and 2) from the managing editor of the Arizona
Republic newspaper. The pictures were taken by Mr. William Rhoads,
4333 N. 14th St., Phoenix, Arizona, at sunset, on 7 July 1947. The
Subject objects flew at unconceivable speeds, making three circles in
the vicinity of Mr. Rhoads' home. The pictures were taken with
a box camera, size 620. The photograph (Exhibit 1) was taken as the
object passed in front of Mr. Rhoads, and Exhibit 2 as the object
turned towards Mr. Rhoads. The height of the object was estimated at
1000 feet.
AGENT'S NOTES: See Exhibits 1 and 2, photographs of unidentifiable
objects, enlarged approximately 20 times. No further reports have been
received by this office of objects seen by military personnel.
Lynn. C. Aldrich, Special Agent, EIC - AAF, FDTRC
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HEADQUARTERS FOURTH AIR FORCE
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4 August 1947
333.5 ID
SUBJECT: Investigation of "Flying Discs"
TO:
Special Agent in Charge, FBI, U. S. Dept of Justice, Suite 426,
111 Sutter Street, San Francisco 4, California.
Inclosed herewith is information copy of MOIC and newspaper
clipping re subject.
WILLIAM R. GRAHAM
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Major, Air Corps
1. MOIC Sorensen 7 Jul 47.
Deputy AC of S, A-2
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HEADQUARTERS FOURTH AIR FORCE
Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff, A-2
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Hamilton Field, California
4AFDA
4 August 1947
333.5 ID
SUBJECT: Investigation of "Flying Discs"
TO:
Special Agent in Charge, FBI, U. S. Dept. of Justice, Suite 426,
111 Sutter Street, San Francisco 4, California.
Attached MOIC is forwarded for your information.
William Rhaham
WILLIAM R. GRAHAM
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Major, Air Corps
MOIC Aldrich, 14 Jul 47.
Deputy AC of S, A-2
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SUBJECT: Investigation of "Flying Discs"
TO:
Special Agent in Charge, U. S. Department of Justice, Suite 426,
111 Sutter Street, San Francisco, California.
Forwarded herewith is information copy of statement and newspaper
clipping re subject.
WILLIAM R. GRAHAM
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1. Statement of RANKIN,
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From the Oregon Journal - continued.
MORE SEEN LATER.
Several late flights of objects over Portland were reported Friday
afternoon. E. A. Evans, 3433 SW Macadam avenue, said he saw three fly
east across the Williamette river near the Ross Island bridge about 2 p.m.
The objects did not appear high, he said, and were traveling so fast
that, appearing in the west, they were out of sight in the east in two to
four seconds. Ho said they resembled metallic disks glinting in the sunlight.
Later, he said, he and neighbors saw a single disk-like object flying
north far away and very high.
At 4:30 pemo, Mrs. Lawrence J. Hayward, 6124 NE 21st Avenue, reported
sighting a disk "like a. new dime flipping around" in the air over the Sandy
district. She said it seemed to be moving slowly.
PAPER RECOVERED.
Thomas W. Dwyer, 1232 NE 59th Avenue, said he sighted two white or
silver objects flying southeast high over Portland a few minutes before
5 pame He reported another, headed northeast, over his home at 5:30 p.m.
C. J. Bagne, Tigard, reported that four disks flow past Mount Jefferson
at about 11 a.m. while he was driving near Redmond.
Sherman Cook, 2000 NE 65th avenue, recovered from Rose City golf course
a piece of paper he said had fallen from a great height in the sky. Time of
its fall coincided with some of the reports of flying disks. The paper, of
low quality, measured 233 x 36 inches.
SILVERED DISKS, DROPPED BY PLANE.
EUGENE, July 5 -(AP)- A Eugene railroad cashier said Friday he saw
silvered disks being dropped out of a light airplane flying over this city.
E. F. Smith, Rt 2, Eugene, an assistant cashier for the Southern Pacific
Railroad, said he was driving on a Eugeno street when --
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FROM THE OREGON JOURNAL - 5 July 1947, Portland, Ore.
AIRLINES CREW CONFIRMS REPORTS OF FLYING DISKS: FIVE SPOTTED.
Circumstantial reports of flying disks in the sky Friday came from
the crew of a. United Airlines plane over Hoise, Idaho, and a coast guards-
man near Seattle, as well as from Portland area police and citizens.
E. J. Smith, captain of the airliner, told United Press that he
sighted five "somethings" which were "thin and smooth on the bettom and
rough appearing on top." The objects appeared against the sunset shortly
after the plane took off at 8:04 pam., he said.
"We saw them clearly," he reported. "We followed them in a north-
westerly direction for about 45 miles. Finally the objects disappeared.
We were unable to tell whether they outsped us or disintegrated.
NOT AIRCRAFT.
"We can't say whether they were saucer-like, oval or anything else,"
the captain said, "but whatever they were, they were not another aircraft,
nor were they smoke or clouds."
In Seattle, Coast Guardaman Frank Ryman, 27, reported to United Press
that he snapped 0. picture from the front porch of his home which showed a
"white saucer" flying over the north end of Lake Washington.
Aome News Pictures, New York City, said a 7x9 inch print of the photo-
graph showed two tiny dots, one of which was a flaw in the print.
Don Metcalfe, 19, Oaks Amusement park employe, reported that he saw
several objects "like spinning disks" in the sky Friday. He said several
picnickers, including a woman pilot noticed them.
In Vancouver, Wash., Sheriff's Deputies John Sullivan, Clarence
McKay and Fred Krives heard the Portland police radio broadcast and ran
out of the shoriff's office to look at the sky. Over Portland, three to five
miles away, Sullivan said, they saw 20 to 30 objects "like a flight of geese"
They heard a low humming sound.
OTHERS DOUBTFUL.
Col. G. R. Dodson, commander of the Oregon national guard, made an
inspection of this area from the air after the disks were reported here.
He said he saw nothing "suspicious."
Only known military airplanes in the air at the time of the reports
were 23 B-29 bombers near Astoria.
Despite all the reports, at least two persons remained unconvinced
of the existence of the disks. Al P. Sanford, Holgate moorage, gave his
opinion that the objects were cottonwood blossoms.
Burl Nollsoh, 64, of 6604 N. Burrage avenue, telephoned the Journal
to berate the newspapers for "perpetuating a hoax." He said he saw objects in
the sky about a minute after on airplane passed over his house. To him the
objects looked like bits of aluminum foil, perhaps cigarette wrappers.
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on 30 July 1947 the kichard Rankin, 83h N. E. Simpson Street,
Portland, Cregon was intert owed by this agent and stated in substance as
follows:
My name is Richard Bankin. I am47 years old and have own since
I was nineteen years old. I first soloed in an air craft in 1919. I have flown
over all the western parts of the United Stat es many times and have mapped
all of the western part of the United States during the years before the
late war for the US Forest Service. I an familiar with almost every part of
the western United States. During a great part of my life I have done stunt
flying for air shows and various other types of aeronautical exhibitions. Ny
brother was "Tex"Rankin who was quite well known in both civilian and Hilitary
flying circles for many years before his death and during the late war ran
thousands of Flying Cadets through primary training schools owned and oper-
add by him. To date I have accomplished 7000 hours in the air as pilot of
both civilian and Military aircraft. I an well acquainted with most articles
that one would see in the air and I feel that I am well qualified to say
when I see articles flying through the air, although I would not attempt to
say that I an infallable and state that I could definitely identify every
object that might be flying through the air. The following is an account of
what I saw on 14 June 1947 from the yard of my home at 1808 South "M" St,
Bakersfield, California.
At approximately 1200 noon on the 1/1 of June I was lying in the
front yard of my home. There was a lad mowing the Lawn at the time. I looked
up into the sky and BBW ten articles flying from the South to th North at what
I wuld judge to be 8500 ft. The objects were flying ab approximately what I
would judge to be 350 miles per hour. AD I have stated before, I have done
quite a lot of map work for the US Forest Service. I distinctly remember that
at the time I suw the articles I mentioned it to the lad who was mowing the
lawn at the time. I told the lad that the objects were in all probability
some sort of Army or Navy test planes from the nearby test centers on the
deserts of Southern California. Having quite a knowledge of aircraft in
general I attempted to explain to the lad mowing the lawn that the objects
were probably on same sort of training mission for either the Army or Navy.
At that time I did not give the slightest thought to anything but that the
objects were some sort of test thip for the Government Services. The obsects
resembled the pictures that I have soon of the XFSU-1, the so lled "Flying
Flapjack affords that the Navy is testing. After the objects disappeared I
proceeded into the house and had my noon meal. At approximately 1415 I went
back into the yard to sit and lie in the shade. At this time the objects re-
appeared going from Hoarth to South, although this time there were only seven
of the articles. When I first saw the original ten objects they were flying
in a #ye formation with one objet seemingly starygling in the rear of the
formation. When the objects apporaed the second time they were still in the
"V" formation although there TIES only seven of the objects at this time. I
remember at this time that I told the lad, the was still TO ricing on the lawn,
that pobably three of the objects had poceeded back to their base on a diff-
erent course. I actually thought that this was the case, that the other three
objects hdd probably gone back to their base on the other side of the mountains
from Bakersfield. A week or so later when I read of the Kenneth Amold claiming
that he had seen articles flying through the air over the Priscade Mountains in
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More reports of "flying flapjacks" turned up Wednesday, one from
no loss than Dick Rankin, brother of the late Tex Rankin, and himself an
experienced pilot of more than 7000 hours' flying time.
Rankin, who is recovering from an old back injury received in an
automobile accident, came to Portland over the weekend to spend the summer.
He saw the "silver saucers" over Bakersfield, Cal., June 23, while lying
on the lawn sun bathing, he told The Oregonian.
"I hesitated so say much about them," Rankin said, "until I noticed
all the hullabaloo in the papers. I puszled over their strange shape for
a while and finally concluded that they were the navy's new XF5U-1 flying
flapjacks, which are thin and round, with twin propellers and stubby tail."
ONLY ONE XF5U-1 BUILT.
The navy and the manufacturer have announced officially that only
one such machine was built and that it never left Connecticut.
"These planes were flying high, maybe 9000 feet, and fairly fast,
about 300 or 400 miles an hour. I first counted ten of them in formation,
going north. About 2:15 P.M. they returned on the reverse course, headed
south, but there were only seven in the formation.
"They were not weaving or bobbing in formation; I couldn't make out
the number or location of their propellers and couldn't distinguish any
wings or tail. They appeared almost round. They looked like pictures of
the navy's flying flapjack," Rankin said.
Rankin, who plans to spend the summer here at 834 N. E. Simpson St.,
is now able to resume a little flying for fun, but not commercially, he
said. He now operates & string of auto courts, spending his winters at
Palm Springs.
TWO DESCRIPTIONS CHECK.
Rankin's description of the mysterious aerial objects agrees with
that of Kenneth Arnold, Boise, Idaho, business man, who first reported them
over the State of Washington, except that Arnold clocked them at an estima-
ted 1200 miles an hour.
Other reports came Wednesday from Astoria. Jack Hayes, patient in
St. Mary's hospital there, said he saw two of the discs Monday flying south-
west at a rapid speed and that they vanished behind the hills.
Mrs. Earl Seado, Fort Stevens, said she saw. B. dise traveling north
over Fort Stevens Tuesday noon, and that other observers saw the same object.
The army at Fort Stevens and the coast guard at nearby Point Adams did
not see the dises.
The report of a Centralia, Wash., man Wednesday coincided in matter of
time with the original report made by Arnold. Sidney B. Callagher of Centra-
lia said he saw nine aluminum-hued objects flying north at 3 P.M. June 24.
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He was working 11 miles southwest of Mineral, Wash., at the time.
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Washington I realised that the articles that I saw were probably the same thing.
I was still reluctant to mention this to anyone bhinking that they would prob-
ably say that I was crazy. After SOLD time I mentioned the ind dent to the
editor of the "Oregonian", a Portland, Oregon newspaper. At this time I was
in Portland for the remainder of the simmer. The results d' the conversation
with the editor of the paper is put forth in the accompanying newspaper
article.
I fully realize that this is a broad statement in view of the fact
that there la. 8 been a much publicity put forth in various news-
papers of the country. I am of sound mind in every respect and I an firmly
convinced that the articles I saw are actually some sort of flying machines
although I cannot say from where they came or to where thay were going. I say
what I have said with no idea of publicity or personal gain.
SIGNED
Richmond Rankin
Portland, Oregon
30 July 1947
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FROM THE OREGON JOURNAL - 5 July 1947, Portland, Ore.
"PROWL CARS SPOT DISKS IN SKY HERE"
Whatever they are, there are some disk-like objects flying around
in the sky.
or else eight Portland area policemen and deputy sheriffs who
sighted the objects Friday, numerous private citizens, the crew of a
United Air Lines plane over Boise, Idaho, and a coastguardsman who claims
to have photographed one near Seattle, are all wrong.
In Portland the alert was sounded over police radio at 1:06 p.m.
Friday, after the East Side station received a score of calls that the disks
were overhead. Within seconds, two prowl cars reported spotting the mys-
tery craft.
FLASHES SEEN, NOISE LACKING.
First to report in were Patrolmen Walter Lissy and Robert Ellis in
Car No. 82, who stopped near Oaks Park. Both World War II veterans and
civilian pilots, they sighted three of the objects within 30 seconds trav-
eling at great height and speed over the park. They reported they heard no
engine noises but saw flashes. The objects seemed erratic and changed
direction of flight. The patrolmen agreed that without knowledge of the
size of the objects it would be impossible to judge their speed or altitude.
Patrolman Earl Patterson in car No. 13 stopped at SE 82d avenue and
Foster road to look eastward from where the disks were reported. Telephone
calls located them coming out of the sun. He saw nothing, but B. few seconds
later observed one coming out of the west and heading southwest. The craft
seemed to be aluminum or eggshell white and didn't flash or reflect light,
he said.
OBJECTS UNIDENTIFIED.
A former aircorps veteran, he said the object was unlike any plane
he'd ever seen. He thought it appeared radio-controlled because the disk
could change direction at a 90-degree angle without difficulty.
Members of the harbor patrol at the foot of NW Irving street stepped
out when they heard the all-car alert. Capt. K. A. Prehn, Harbor Pilot,
A. T. Austed and Patrolman K. C. Hoff all saw the objects and said they
appeared to be going south high over the Globe mills at terrific speed.
Capt. Prehn said the flashes kept them from ascertaining whether there were
three or six.
"The disks would oscillate and sometimes we would see a full disk,
then a. half-moon shape, then nothing at all," he reported. The objects
looked more like a shiny chromium hub cap off a car which wobbled, disappeared
and reappeared."
There was a plane in the sky at the time, but all were emphatic that
the disks were not planes.
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5. This agent interviewed W. A. Lissy and D. W. Ellis, both Patrolman,
Portland City Police Department and both possess private pilots licenses.
Both officers advised that upon hearing the radio alert, they saw three flat
round discs, having a white color to them. These discs were, according to
these officers, flying at a terrific speed in a Southerly direction away from
Portland, They described them as flying in a straight line formation, the
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